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This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.
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This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.
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hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.

When did America forget how to compromise? If we can't find ways to come together to solve the problems of this country, whether it's guns or police brutality or police slayings, we are truly truly fucked.
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Three people were in custody and a fourth suspect exchanged gunfire with authorities in a parking garage downtown into the morning, Dallas Police Chief David Brown said.

NBC Dallas Fort-Worth reported the fourth suspect had been "neutralized" at around 2:45 a.m. (3:45 ET). Earlier, he had told police negotiators that "the end is coming" and that "there are bombs all over the place in this garage and downtown," Brown said.

Related: Witnesses Recount Dallas Shooting Horror

Extensive sweeps of downtown for explosives were underway in the early hours.

At least two snipers fired from an elevated positions on police officers minutes before 9 p.m. CT, according to Brown. He described the shootings as "ambush style."

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he told a news conference — noting that some were shot in the back.
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Shampoo4you wrote:
BenPerkins wrote:
hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.

When did America forget how to compromise? If we can't find ways to come together to solve the problems of this country, whether it's guns or police brutality or police slayings, we are truly truly fucked.

What was all that sit in business about then whistle
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BenPerkins wrote:
hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


So here's the crazy thing, and why this week has been so bizarre.

According to the girlfiend's retelling of the story on the phone video:

The gentlemen in Minnesota was shot while obeying the law! He did precisely what he was supposed to do, which is tell the officer "I have a gun, and I have a permit for the gun". He then went to retrieve his licenses and registration when asked for it by the officer, and upon doing so, the officer shot him.

So, at least according to the girlfriend's retelling of the story, the victim was actually doing exactly what he was supposed to be doing, and it still ended up bad for him.

That is definitely a "WTF" moment.
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Shampoo4you wrote:
BenPerkins wrote:
hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.

When did America forget how to compromise? If we can't find ways to come together to solve the problems of this country, whether it's guns or police brutality or police slayings, we are truly truly fucked.

What was all that sit in business about then whistle


You mean the sit in that was held because the Republicans refuse to give an inch on gun control? Case-in-fucking-point.
 
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You mean the sit in that was held because the Republicans refuse to give an inch on gun control? Case-in-fucking-point.


If it is true that humans have a right to property and a right to self ownership and a right to protect themselves and they have a right to own and use guns, is that something you would want your "elected representative" who told you that he believed in that right too so that he would get your vote... is that something you would expect them to give an inch on? Like Dems who get elected telling their voters that they won't give an inch on a woman's right to abort her unborn baby.
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hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


So here's the crazy thing, and why this week has been so bizarre.

According to the girlfiend's retelling of the story on the phone video:

The gentlemen in Minnesota was shot while obeying the law! He did precisely what he was supposed to do, which is tell the officer "I have a gun, and I have a permit for the gun". He then went to retrieve his licenses and registration when asked for it by the officer, and upon doing so, the officer shot him.

So, at least according to the girlfriend's retelling of the story, the victim was actually doing exactly what he was supposed to be doing, and it still ended up bad for him.

That is definitely a "WTF" moment.


Correct. My understanding is that the law commanded he disclose his CCW status up front. The officer then told him to show his license and registration which he would have to retrieve. Then the officer told him to freeze contradicting his first command. This guy could not comply with all the commands given. Lose-lose.
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You mean the sit in that was held because the Republicans refuse to give an inch on gun control? Case-in-fucking-point.


If it is true that humans have a right to property and a right to self ownership and a right to protect themselves and they have a right to own and use guns, is that something you would want your "elected representative" who told you that he believed in that right too so that he would get your vote... is that something you would expect them to give an inch on? Like Dems who get elected telling their voters that they won't give an inch on a woman's right to abort her unborn baby.
So women have a 100& right to have an abortion at any time during the pregnancy?

I think you will find that most "Dems" think there should be restrictions on abortion, it is why there are some.
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You mean the sit in that was held because the Republicans refuse to give an inch on gun control? Case-in-fucking-point.


If it is true that humans have a right to property and a right to self ownership and a right to protect themselves and they have a right to own and use guns, is that something you would want your "elected representative" who told you that he believed in that right too so that he would get your vote... is that something you would expect them to give an inch on? Like Dems who get elected telling their voters that they won't give an inch on a woman's right to abort her unborn baby.
So women have a 100& right to have an abortion at any time during the pregnancy?

I think you will find that most "Dems" think there should be restrictions on abortion, it is why there are some.


And there already are restrictions on guns.
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You mean the sit in that was held because the Republicans refuse to give an inch on gun control? Case-in-fucking-point.


If it is true that humans have a right to property and a right to self ownership and a right to protect themselves and they have a right to own and use guns, is that something you would want your "elected representative" who told you that he believed in that right too so that he would get your vote... is that something you would expect them to give an inch on? Like Dems who get elected telling their voters that they won't give an inch on a woman's right to abort her unborn baby.
So women have a 100& right to have an abortion at any time during the pregnancy?

I think you will find that most "Dems" think there should be restrictions on abortion, it is why there are some.


And there already are restrictions on guns.
Yes, but what are people calling for that you consider restrictive to owning a gun?

Why does better enforcement of background checks (for example) restrict those who are legally allowed to own a gun from owning one?

Why does stopping you from owning a semi-auto rifle stop your from owning a single shot rifle?

How does a restriction on magazine size stop you from owning a gun?


 
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hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.


Obama did, in his address...
 
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BenPerkins wrote:
hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.


Obama did, in his address...



[Citation Needed]
 
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Correct. My understanding is that the law commanded he disclose his CCW status up front. The officer then told him to show his license and registration which he would have to retrieve. Then the officer told him to freeze contradicting his first command. This guy could not comply with all the commands given. Lose-lose.


You don't know what happened.
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jageroxorz wrote:
Shampoo4you wrote:
BenPerkins wrote:
hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.


Obama did, in his address...



[Citation Needed]


It's....in his remarks? Did you read them?

Quote:
And he also suggested that lax gun laws also played a role: "We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, it makes shootings like this more deadly and more tragic," he said.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/08/obama...
 
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Dispaminite wrote:
jageroxorz wrote:
Shampoo4you wrote:
BenPerkins wrote:
hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.


Obama did, in his address...



[Citation Needed]


It's....in his remarks? Did you read them?

Quote:
And he also suggested that lax gun laws also played a role: "We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, it makes shootings like this more deadly and more tragic," he said.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/08/obama...
So bold for us the words "come" "for" and "your".

 
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jageroxorz wrote:
Dispaminite wrote:
jageroxorz wrote:
Shampoo4you wrote:
BenPerkins wrote:
hibikir wrote:
This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.


Obama did, in his address...



[Citation Needed]


It's....in his remarks? Did you read them?

Quote:
And he also suggested that lax gun laws also played a role: "We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, it makes shootings like this more deadly and more tragic," he said.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/08/obama...
So bold for us the words "come" "for" and "your".



Bury your head in the sand, then.
 
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It's....in his remarks? Did you read them?


No. I get all my political news from RSP.
 
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This is in no way a good thing, but it's hard not to see it as predictable. Enough killings that don't seem to be taken seriously by the authorities, and some people decide that revenge is the right idea. How long until we see black people being very sympathetic to the old black panther ideas?

This is all so very ugly, and since most of the times is down to local police departments and state prosecutors, we'll not see what we need: A national initiative to change how we deal with police shootings. Otherwise, one city will pay for a different city's mistakes.

Dear conservatives in the forum, think about it in this way: If you guys get your panties in a bunch because of Hillary, imagine what black people that believe that the police can kill them without repercussion feel. I bet they are far more scared, and far madder than you are.


I'm black and a conservative (if that matters). I've never had any issues with the police and can only speak for myself. As far as laws go, this should be handled on a local level. The last thing we need is a ban on guns, which this might be a precursor to.


Who said anything about coming for you guns? Jesus Christ you ammosexuals need to CHILLLLLLL.


Obama did, in his address...



[Citation Needed]


It's....in his remarks? Did you read them?

Quote:
And he also suggested that lax gun laws also played a role: "We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, it makes shootings like this more deadly and more tragic," he said.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/08/obama...


Missed the part where he called for a ban on guns.
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