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Will H.
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If I have a spacecraft at the Saturn Fly-By location in 1982 I can move to the Uranus Fly-By location, but how long does it take; 5 time tokens?

That would put the spacecraft at Uranus Fly-By in 1986, right?

What does the Saturn symbol in front of the time token mean?

Also, looking at the calendar, 1982 appears to be the last year to be able to do a Neptune Fly-By, which would be impossible if you are only arriving at Saturn Fly-By in 1982, correct?

It's funny how you think you understand the game until you try and teach it to someone else.
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Yes, Saturn Fly-By to Uranus Fly-By takes 5 yrs; 5 time tokens.

No, it would arrive in 1987.

The Saturn symbol means that you must resolve the Saturn location hazard when you leave its vicinity.

Correct, you need to be at Uranus Fly-By in 1982 to perform that slingshot maneuver to Neptune.
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It's explained on page 9:
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Maneuver Hazards
Always face maneuver hazards in the order their symbols are written in. For example, going from Jupiter Orbit to Io, you face Jupiter's hazard immediately, then you may add time tokens, then on arrival you face landing and whatever hazard Io presents
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Thanks, guys.

I've read the rules, but sometimes situations come up that make you question your understanding of said rules.

They make sense, too, because you'd be flying around the planet before moving on to the next one.
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Quick follow up to this original question.

If I have a spacecraft at Jupiter Fly-By and want to go to Saturn Fly-By, how do I know what the Jupiter hazard is if I do not survey Jupiter?

Can I just flip over Jupiter and deal with whatever hazard is on the Jupiter location and move on to Saturn Fly-By without revealing a Jupiter mission card?

 
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Facing a hazard is what causes the location card describing that hazard to flip over.

So when you maneuver from Lunar Orbit to the Moon, you face the moon hazard and flip the Moon card over to see what it is -- not because of the location you're going to, but because of the hazard on the maneuver you're performing.
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Thanks, Joe.

My question is, does revealing the Jupiter location this way (by traveling from Jupiter Fly-By to Saturn Fly-By) cause you to draw a Jupiter mission?

Thanks!
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Sure.
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This is what I suspected, and how I played it, but I wanted to double check. It does limit your options for exploring beyond Jupiter.
 
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gar0u wrote:
Thanks, Joe.

My question is, does revealing the Jupiter location this way (by traveling from Jupiter Fly-By to Saturn Fly-By) cause you to draw a Jupiter mission?

Thanks!


Yes. Revealing Jupiter causes you to draw a Jupiter mission (if there is one that qualifies).
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Interesting. I always thought Outer Planets Transfer was just if you missed a slingshot year (and could afford to make it work).

Now it seems like a good option to avoid Jupiter if you're trying to get to Saturn or beyond, but don't want to reveal additional missions you may not be able to accomplish.

Loving how the game continues to reveal new strategies.
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Doesn't using Outer Planets Transfer to get you to Jupiter still require it to be a slingshot year, as it starts with the symbol and is coloured red, just like the Venus slingshot?
 
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Yes, but in another number of years. And the advantage of OPT is that you can go there in any number of years you choose, so you can make your craft get there right when you need to.
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I was suggesting Outer Planets Transfer as a way to get beyond Jupiter without going revealing the Jupiter location via slingshot maneuvers.

Might be useful for scoring particular missions without having to draw Jupiter missions, that's all.
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