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Christopher Dearlove
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Inspired by more than one thread about game prices, some thoughts that I produced to share with someone (hence the form of the wording) having got a positive response, I thought I'd share them here.

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As a purchaser I take the pragmatic view that a game has a price, arrived at by arcane means, and I then buy it or not. If it's too high, I just don't buy it (I may shop around, or wait of course).

With a bit of a view into the industry, I do have some idea of how prices arise, but probably that just reinforces my view above.


Of course I don't actually expect to have any impact on anyone who feels otherwise. But you never know.
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All luxury goods have a price, and either you pay that price or you don't.

You won't starve without a game, you won't die of any affliction.

If the price is too high, you don't get it. The end.
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Similarly, when I decide what I'm going to order for lunch, I look at the menu and choose the one that I want, factoring in expected taste, cost, and degree to which said cost will impact my ability to afford other things that I may also want, now and/or in the future.

This is fascinating.
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curtc wrote:
This is fascinating.


And if by that you mean that we are at "Pope is Catholic" level of obvious then I might agree with you. Visit the fora for, say, Food Chain Magnate or Ra and you'll find some disagreement.
 
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Dearlove wrote:
curtc wrote:
This is fascinating.


And if by that you mean that we are at "Pope is Catholic" level of obvious then I might agree with you. Visit the fora for, say, Food Chain Magnate or Ra and you'll find some disagreement.


Yeah, the only problem is, people want the game but can't afford that without sacrificing something else so they complain about the prices being too high. Ultimately though, as you said, you either buy it or don't.

Ironically, I bet a lot of those same people are selling OOP games for far more than they paid for them. Try finding a copy of Orleans: Deluxe Edition for less than $100. Not that I fault them for doing it. If people are willing to pay $100 or more for a game you got for $70, why not sell it for $100 or more?

As an aside, I really wish I had bought a copy of Orleans: Deluxe Edition at Origins, and had backed Scythe. shake Oh well, I'm shoppig around. I'm sure if I'm patient I'll find both those, and some other OOP games at a price I'm okay paying.
 
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morris9597 wrote:
Dearlove wrote:
curtc wrote:
This is fascinating.


And if by that you mean that we are at "Pope is Catholic" level of obvious then I might agree with you. Visit the fora for, say, Food Chain Magnate or Ra and you'll find some disagreement.


Yeah, the only problem is, people want the game but can't afford that without sacrificing something else so they complain about the prices being too high. Ultimately though, as you said, you either buy it or don't.

Ironically, I bet a lot of those same people are selling OOP games for far more than they paid for them. Try finding a copy of Orleans: Deluxe Edition for less than $100. Not that I fault them for doing it. If people are willing to pay $100 or more for a game you got for $70, why not sell it for $100 or more?

As an aside, I really wish I had bought a copy of Orleans: Deluxe Edition at Origins, and had backed Scythe. shake Oh well, I'm shoppig around. I'm sure if I'm patient I'll find both those, and some other OOP games at a price I'm okay paying.


I'm just glad I played Orleans before I decided to buy it. Saved myself some money.
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Gates of Loyang for 95 bucks, like really?? cry
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Yeah, well...They printed 11,350 copies of Scythe, and I sure as hell am not spending twice ks retail. That is cray cray. I'll wait.
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morris9597 wrote:
I'm sure if I'm patient I'll find both those, and some other OOP games at a price I'm okay paying.


QFT. I have a hard time getting worked up about high prices when I can often wait them out.
 
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Curious how everyone complains when they want to buy a game that sells for more than the original price or when they want to sell a game that commands a price much lower than they paid, but nobody complains when selling a game for a high price or buying a game on super-low clearance.

Pete (thinks people are whining at only one side of the coin)
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JosefK wrote:
morris9597 wrote:
I'm sure if I'm patient I'll find both those, and some other OOP games at a price I'm okay paying.


QFT. I have a hard time getting worked up about high prices when I can often wait them out.


I just had to look up "QFT" as I had never run into that one before. I like it, assuming I found the right meaning. "Quoted for Truth"?
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morris9597 wrote:
JosefK wrote:
morris9597 wrote:
I'm sure if I'm patient I'll find both those, and some other OOP games at a price I'm okay paying.


QFT. I have a hard time getting worked up about high prices when I can often wait them out.


I just had to look up "QFT" as I had never run into that one before. I like it, assuming I found the right meaning. "Quoted for Truth"?


Yes, that's the right one.
 
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morris9597 wrote:
JosefK wrote:
morris9597 wrote:
I'm sure if I'm patient I'll find both those, and some other OOP games at a price I'm okay paying.


QFT. I have a hard time getting worked up about high prices when I can often wait them out.


I just had to look up "QFT" as I had never run into that one before. I like it, assuming I found the right meaning. "Quoted for Truth"?


I think its "Quote for Today".
 
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I was going to go for "Quiche for Tea" but anyway..
If somebody had bought a deluxe version of a game then was selling it for $30 profit I would just assume it wasn't worth buying in the first place.
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Dragoonkin wrote:
You won't starve without a game, you won't die of any affliction.


Well . . . let's not jump to conclusions . . .

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One thing I've noticed who simply assume that any decision made by a big company must be a good decision. This is nonsense. We shouldn't overlook the obvious fact that sometimes companies make the wrong decision. Referring to this specific topic, sometimes companies set their prices too high or too low.
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pfctsqr wrote:
I'm just glad I played Orleans before I decided to buy it. Saved myself some money.

Actually you lost money. I made about $100 selling my copy. whistle
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MK99 wrote:
...sometimes companies set their prices too high or too low.


Too low would be losing money, or not making enough to stay solvent. Too high would be so high that they don't sell enough copies (thus losing money, or not making enough to stay solvent).

Any other price is a good price, whether or not you specifically would pay it.
 
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HaNd_SoLo wrote:
MK99 wrote:
...sometimes companies set their prices too high or too low.


Too low would be losing money, or not making enough to stay solvent. Too high would be so high that they don't sell enough copies (thus losing money, or not making enough to stay solvent).

Any other price is a good price, whether or not you specifically would pay it.

I'm curious what you mean by "good". There is a range between "seller goes broke if price is below X" and "seller goes broke if price is above Y". All prices between those two points are not necessarily equally "good", either for buyers or seller.
 
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If I want it I buy it simple as that. I search high and low and try to get the best deal I can. Sometimes I'm successful and get a bargain and sometimes I'm not and pay a lot, but in the end it is my choice as it is anyone else's. If you don't like the price don't buy it or try to find it lower, so do your best to get the best price possible and if you can't move on to the next "I Can't live without it" game on your list and quit your bitching!
 
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MK99 wrote:
One thing I've noticed who simply assume that any decision made by a big company must be a good decision.

I have a hard time judging a company's decisions. I do expect they might have motivations that differ from mine, as well as more information and more at stake.

I can tell which decisions I don't like, and behave accordingly. But I usually wouldn't presume to say that they made a wrong decision.
 
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ReluctantFr0g wrote:
Gates of Loyang for 95 bucks, like really?? cry


Amateurs.

Games in New Zealand on the shelves retail for 120.
 
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curtc wrote:
HaNd_SoLo wrote:
MK99 wrote:
...sometimes companies set their prices too high or too low.


Too low would be losing money, or not making enough to stay solvent. Too high would be so high that they don't sell enough copies (thus losing money, or not making enough to stay solvent).

Any other price is a good price, whether or not you specifically would pay it.

I'm curious what you mean by "good". There is a range between "seller goes broke if price is below X" and "seller goes broke if price is above Y". All prices between those two points are not necessarily equally "good", either for buyers or seller.


Game companies exist to make money. A good price is one that allows them to make enough money to continue developing games and selling them. There probably is a best price, but how do you determine that?
 
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SamNzed wrote:
ReluctantFr0g wrote:
Gates of Loyang for 95 bucks, like really?? cry


Amateurs.

Games in New Zealand on the shelves retail for 120.


Yikes!!!
 
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HaNd_SoLo wrote:
There probably is a best price, but how do you determine that?

Business calculus.
 
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