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https://www.1843magazine.com/culture/the-daily/board-games-w...

This is the offending article. In the past year or so, mainstream observers have written many articles regarding the surge of popularity in our hobby. Most have skimmed the surface, some offer insightful analysis, and some offer misleading and poorly-informed views on the subject.

Personally I have two issues with this article. The first is that the writer seems to have no idea what he's talking about. I lost it when he said "a quick game of Runewars"....Maybe followed by a quick game of Twilight Imperium 3rd edition, while we're at it? I would have expected a little more research into the subject material at hand.

Secondly, he's quoting a dubious "expert" who makes unjustified disparaging remarks about our hobby being "an unflattering reflection of consumerist society" and "having no intrinsic value beyond the packaging". He completely ignores the intellectually challenging aspects of board gaming, the immersive and social elements of the hobby, and slams board game lovers as "symptomatic of a consumerist culture". In fact, board games hardly ever get thrown away and have significant replay value - they are also often traded or sold (a form of recycling) to second-hand buyers when they're no longer wanted.

Most importantly, he claims that there is no innovation or "true" variety in board games, just because some games have gone through revised editions or reprints. Without going into detail, we already know that re-releases are in the minority of new games available. Many games also offer a substantially different experience mechanically and thematically - such as in the example of Letters of Whitechapel. He is someone who studies history - but has no interest or understanding of the current or future state of board games. I am rather upset that an otherwise reputable news/opinion platform would quote such poorly-researched and intellectually indefensible opinions.



Tldr: Grumpy historian-guy makes unfair criticisms of board games in the public sphere, making us look bad in public.
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TBH, I couldn't care less. Some guy writes something bad about something he has no clue about. Not the first time it happened. Won't be the last, either.

I will rather enjoy playing my board games, while he can live on in ignorance.

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It's all in the eye of the beholder, for example, when I manage to finish a game of Twilight Imperium in 7-8 hours, I call it a quick game.
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What a wanky intro
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Thanee wrote:
TBH, I couldn't care less. Some guy writes something bad about something he has no clue about. Not the first time it happened. Won't be the last, either.

I will rather enjoy playing my board games, while he can live on in ignorance.

Bye
Thanee


I'm with Thanee - I couldn't care either.

In fact, I'm going to show how much I don't care by not even reading the article!
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Just about anything i read online annoys me.
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An article with 'little intrinsic value'; ignorant, patronising garbage that wasn't worth the energy to read it, but then I guess that's the media all over
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When I read stuff like that I always get this picture in my head

 
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Monopoly World Championships are like for real?

What the...?
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I liked this part:

"A Eurogame will typically suggest a more immersive fictional world than American-style board games like Monopoly, and place a greater emphasis on strategy and cooperation."

Take that, all of you Ameritrashers who think Eurogames are dry abstracts! laugh
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Love to line about how Monopoly has "long proved attractive to serious gamers". He must have a different definition of a serious gamer than I do.
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It's clearly filler material, but I can't work out if he's totally clueless and bluffing it, or secretly knowledgeable but trying to provoke gamers with outrage-bait for a bit of fleeting notoriety.
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Articles like those should be in the same lump as the hysteria of people playing D&D back in the 80s. Yes I've joined a satanic cult and do ritual sacrifices. Oh wait I never did any of those things.
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I love that he cited a 2010 Facebook post by Mark Zuckerburg as proof that Catan is popular...
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1/care.

Affects me zero.

The internets and media are starving for content and this dude picked up an assignment to write about something which he wasn't completely familiar. I'm pretty sure that this happens a large percentage of the time, as they are just writers and researchers. This dude just happened to be poor at the latter, most likely because he really didn't care about the work, and more about the paycheck.
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So those who participate in the Monopoly and Scrabble world Championships are not serious gamers?

So what is the intrinsic value of a board game?

But yes a total fluff piece.

However, it is in the Economist, a magazine with a decent readership. It potentially help get more gamers into the hobby. Any publicity is good publicity. (as long as it is not too extreme.)

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Annoyed?

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Household staples like Monopoly have long proved attractive to serious gamers.


This is comedy gold!

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yeah its bad but I've read much worse. He missed the mark but he at least tried.
 
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Even discounting the Star Wars commercial tie-ins, many recent board games are iterations of the same basic rules repackaged with a different setting.


You mean all this time I've been playing the same game?!
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FelixTHM wrote:
https://www.1843magazine.com/culture/the-daily/board-games-w...

Tldr: Grumpy historian-guy makes unfair criticisms of board games in the public sphere, making us look bad in public.

Eh, I'd be more worried about the obnoxious stuff right here on BGG that makes us look bad.
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If you actually get annoyed at petty things like singular articles dealing with minor subjects, you will find life is not a lot of fun.
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Irving Finkel is a well known historian of board games and I suspect his remarks have been taken out of context.
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Does the article annoy you?
No, not one little bit, I am above such things.
Well, maybe a little annoyed.
Yeah, this kind of crap gets my goat.
I am filled with massive blood rage.
He must be destroyed, and his family, unto the 4th generation, and yea, even his goat.
What article?
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skutsch wrote:
Poll
Does the article annoy you?
No, not one little bit, I am above such things.
Well, maybe a little annoyed.
Yeah, this kind of crap gets my goat.
I am filled with massive blood rage.
He must be destroyed, and his family, unto the 4th generation, and yea, even his goat.
What article?
      172 answers
Poll created by skutsch

I voted for the goat because that would get me a food and a fur.
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