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The winners of this year's CrossFit Games (starting today) will each receive a Glock handgun as a prize.
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The decision has prompted plenty of backlash, particularly from non-US CrossFitters, including hopes that the winners will throw the guns away.


"CF Gota says obviously no to weapons in all its forms and find it tasteless to CF games have chosen Glock as one of its sponsors!"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BH1TO5VDZ5_/

A petition to cancel the prize has so far reached 21,000 signatures.
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CrossFit Inc would not form partnerships with fast food restaurants, alcohol companies, cigarette or pharmaceutical companies on the same basis. But a gun manufacturer is deemed as a good partner... this is not us. CrossFit is for health, fitness and the well being of the all people in all communities. This is not CrossFit. This should never be CrossFit.

https://www.change.org/p/crossfit-inc-please-cancel-the-part...

The director of CrossFit, Dave Castro, responded to the controversy:
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/07/16/director-of-c...
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“There has also been tremendous support. If I were to make all of my decisions based off of backlash, everything I have done around the CrossFit Games would have been butchered, altered and changed multiple times over. As long as guns are legal in the U.S. based off of our constitutional right, nothing is changing.”


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col_w wrote:
The winners of this year's CrossFit Games (starting today) will each receive a Glock handgun as a prize.
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The decision has prompted plenty of backlash, particularly from non-US CrossFitters, including hopes that the winners will throw the guns away.


Wouldn't this also be a problem if an ex-felon participated?
 
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It's not omg controversy so much as just kind of dumb. Hopefully you csn just get a cash equivilent. I have a revolver, I don't have use for a glock. (Not that I,am winning crossfit, but it's easy to see where it might matter) also giving participants a potentialy illegal prize in many parts of the world seems silly.
 
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Shadrach wrote:
also giving participants a potentialy illegal prize in many parts of the world seems silly.


If you live in a shit hole that bans firearms then crossfit may not be very high on the list of priorities to get upset about.
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jeremycobert wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
also giving participants a potentialy illegal prize in many parts of the world seems silly.


If you live in a shit hole that bans firearms then crossfit may not be very high on the list of priorities to get upset about.


You are talking a significant percentage of the civilized world. Ban and illegal were too strong a words. 'Require lots of paperwork and headache for the proper permits and so be a poor prize.' Would be better. I just woke up.

To lut it in context: I would consider gifting someone a Fennec, lynx, or dingo as a crossfit trophy to beon par.(all animals some people keep as pets, but that normally require piles of paperwork)
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Well I suppose if they want to appeal to gun bunnies great idea.

But why would anyone who cannot win this prize even take a second look at their competition?

As a promotion it is far too targeted, as a publicity stunt it has worked.
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As a promotion it is far too targeted, as a publicity stunt it has worked.



Apparently, it worked. Until today I didn't know CrossFit was a specific thing. I thought it was two words in lower case.

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scribidinus wrote:
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As a promotion it is far too targeted, as a publicity stunt it has worked.



Apparently, it worked. Until today I didn't know CrossFit was a specific thing. I thought it was two words in lower case.

Yes I said it had worked to raise the profile of something that seems all a bit faddish.

But I am not sure in this case all publicity is good publicity. After all it is a gun free "sport" (well it's cultists call it a sport) that seems to think guns are a reward for not shooting anything.
 
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Shadrach wrote:
You are talking a significant percentage of the civilized world.


Yeah, was I not clear when I said shit hole ?
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jeremycobert wrote:
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You are talking a significant percentage of the civilized world.


Yeah, was I not clear when I said shit hole ?
But you were being clear when you said they had banned guns, rather then just restricting them.

About as accurate as calling all of the western world a shit hole.
 
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It's not omg controversy so much as just kind of dumb. Hopefully you csn just get a cash equivilent. I have a revolver, I don't have use for a glock. (Not that I,am winning crossfit, but it's easy to see where it might matter) also giving participants a potentialy illegal prize in many parts of the world seems silly.

Runner-ups get a bible and American flag.
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I would say that giving out guns as prizes is the douchiest thing ever, but then again, it is Crossfit.
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If Glock is donating the gun, I'm good with it. Whenever you seek corporate sponsorship, you risk getting strange in-kind donations, so prizes are often sort of poorly suited to a general audience. Once you accept that, it seems pretty reasonable to solicit donations from specialty retailers. I similarly wouldn't have a problem if they solicited donations from a company which focuses on producing quality human restraint systems for sexual use, or a knitting needle company.

I do hope they are storing the pistol responsibly in the interim, though.
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If Glock is donating the gun, I'm good with it. Whenever you seek corporate sponsorship, you risk getting strange in-kind donations, so prizes are often sort of poorly suited to a general audience. Once you accept that, it seems pretty reasonable to solicit donations from specialty retailers. I similarly wouldn't have a problem if they solicited donations from a company which focuses on producing quality human restraint systems for sexual use, or a knitting needle company.

I do hope they are storing the pistol responsibly in the interim, though.
For the most part I agree, but certain items are so heavily restricted and regulated that just awarding the prize can have logistics challenges that aren't worth it I would think. Because of that and the virtue signaling the guy did when he dropped the Constitution as part of his justification makes me think there is more to it that a simple sponsor donated prize.
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In the US, people who win prizes such as this -- a gun, a car, a two-week vacation to lovely downtown Detroit -- are allowed to take the cash equivalent if they so choose (many do that to avoid paying taxes on the gun, car, etc.). Is that allowed in the UK? If so, it would give winners who object to firearms to accept cash instead.
 
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...a company which focuses on producing quality human restraint systems for sexual use, or a knitting needle company.

Restraints AND knitting needles? Strangest kink ever.
 
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Because of that and the virtue signaling the guy did when he dropped the Constitution as part of his justification makes me think there is more to it that a simple sponsor donated prize.


Yeah, I would probably have more of a problem with the advertising around it than the prize itself.
 
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TheChin! wrote:
rinelk wrote:
If Glock is donating the gun, I'm good with it. Whenever you seek corporate sponsorship, you risk getting strange in-kind donations, so prizes are often sort of poorly suited to a general audience. Once you accept that, it seems pretty reasonable to solicit donations from specialty retailers. I similarly wouldn't have a problem if they solicited donations from a company which focuses on producing quality human restraint systems for sexual use, or a knitting needle company.

I do hope they are storing the pistol responsibly in the interim, though.
For the most part I agree, but certain items are so heavily restricted and regulated that just awarding the prize can have logistics challenges that aren't worth it I would think. Because of that and the virtue signaling the guy did when he dropped the Constitution as part of his justification makes me think there is more to it that a simple sponsor donated prize.
That is my "issue" with this, if they want to give way guns fine, but they are going to restrict who can enter by dint of people not wanting to pay to enter a competition they can't get a prize for winning.

I also find the constitution thing odd, it is the right to bear arms, not give them away.
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I don't have a problem with guns. I am a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. But this is just silly. Guns are not toys. Guns are not suitable for all people. People should acquire their own guns if they want them.

Edit: I think there are cases where it would be appropriate, such as the prize for a sharpshooting competition. Or some sort of para-military thing. But guns have nothing to do with working out.
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MWChapel wrote:
I would say that giving out guns as prizes is the douchiest things ever, but then again, it's Crossfit.


the first rule of Crossfit Club is you must talk about Crossfit Club

the second rule of Crossfit Club is YOU MUST TALK ABOUT CROSSFIT CLUB
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Runner-ups get a bible and American flag.

Is it wrong that the snarks which immediately popped into my head are "Do those come in toilet paper editions?" and "For your burning pleasure!" but I wouldn't mean either and am too lazy to deal with the backlash that would ensue?
 
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I don't have a problem with guns. I am a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. But this is just silly. Guns are not toys. Guns are not suitable for all people. People should acquire their own guns if they want them.

Edit: I think there are cases where it would be appropriate, such as the prize for a sharpshooting competition. Or some sort of para-military thing. But guns have nothing to do with working out.
Lets get a bit snide here.

Maybe guns have nothing to do with working out, maybe they have everything to do with the kind of minds that work out in this cultish way.
 
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Am I the only person who knows a crossfitter he's happy has crossfit? Seems to provide someone I know who has a tendency toward depression an outlet which improves her mood and offers her camaraderie wherever she goes (and she's had to move often for work).

Don't get me wrong, I understand why people might find it annoying, and don't blame people for throwing a bit of snark at it. I just would have expected a more positive post from someone else before now. We have a lot of folks who seem to think they're broad-minded live-and-let-live types, while I'm a rather partisan leftist.
 
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rinelk wrote:
Am I the only person who knows a crossfitter he's happy has crossfit? Seems to provide someone I know who has a tendency toward depression an outlet which improves her mood and offers her camaraderie wherever she goes (and she's had to move often for work).

Don't get me wrong, I understand why people might find it annoying, and don't blame people for throwing a bit of snark at it. I just would have expected a more positive post from someone else before now. We have a lot of folks who seem to think they're broad-minded live-and-let-live types, while I'm a rather partisan leftist.


Prone to depression? Here, take this gun as your prize!

See what I mean? Terrible idea.
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