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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/nba-all-star-game-move/inde...

Good to see they're following through with their proposal to do so if the law wasn't changed.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/nba-all-star-game-move/inde...

Good to see they're following through with their proposal to do so if the law wasn't changed.


Certainly their perogative - and as BJ espouses, free association is doing its thing.
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Eh well, maybe Silver could put some effort into fixing the broken NBA salary cap when he's not busy trying to get laws changed.
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Eh well, maybe Silver could put some effort into fixing the broken NBA salary cap when he's not busy trying to get laws changed.

red black, although you're Canadian, I'm well aware that Dominionism has raised its ugly head up there as well.

So, are you for or against the political goals of Dominionism?






 
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I'm for making the NBA great again. thumbsup


Well then, The Donald should pledge to eliminate the 3-point shot and once again outlaw zone defenses. That ought to do it!
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[q="red black"]Eh well, maybe Silver could put some effort into fixing the broken NBA salary cap when he's not busy trying to get laws changed.

red black, although you're Canadian, I'm well aware that Dominionism has raised its ugly head up there as well.

So, are you for or against the political goals of Dominionism?


Please investigate a resource based economy.
 
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[q="red black"]Eh well, maybe Silver could put some effort into fixing the broken NBA salary cap when he's not busy trying to get laws changed.

red black, although you're Canadian, I'm well aware that Dominionism has raised its ugly head up there as well.

So, are you for or against the political goals of Dominionism?

Please investigate a resource based economy.

Please be aware that Dominionism has not only taken root but also had spread like kudzu in certain sectors of the lands to our north, Canada, but in some respects, Dominionism's advances there have outpaced those of its counterparts in the U.S. in subverting science, environmentalism, and medicine.


> Excerpts from the February 6, 2015 Watershed Sentinel feature story by Joyce Nelson entitled:

The Harper Government And Evangelical Capitalism

We think of right-wing evangelical religion as an influence in American politics, but, unrecognized by the public and mostly unreported, it is a powerful influence on the Conservative caucus. That would explain the destruction of environmental policies and those omnibus bills.

When it comes to religion, most 21st century Canadians are a tolerant lot, with a "Live and let live" mentality. We tend to not particularly care about other Canadians' religious beliefs, or lack of religious beliefs, and we expect a similar tolerance in return.

But when the supposed separation of Church and State starts to erode, we take notice. As Stephen Harper gears up for the next election, some of us wonder if the massive changes to Canada that have already been perpetrated by the Harper government are connected to his religious beliefs.

In her 2010 book, "The Armageddon Factor", Marci McDonald warned about the "Theo-Cons" (the word that Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's uses to apply to them), who view "science and environmentalism as hostile to the Bible."




Regarding the church that Harper has belonged to for nearly three decades -- the Christian and Missionary Alliance Church -- McDonald noted that its "adherents believe that the Bible is ‘inerrant' and the Second Coming is 'imminent'."



Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper

That would place Harper's church squarely in the Evangelical tradition called Dominionism, those who believe in the so-called "Dominion Mandate" spelled out in Genesis 1:28: "And God blessed them [Adam and Eve], and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the Earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the Earth."

Many (although not all) Dominionists take that passage as a divine trump card against any thoughts about environmental protection or regulation.

In taking the Bible literally and as "inerrant" (rather than as metaphorical or symbolic truth), most Dominionists also believe that the Earth is a mere 6,000 years old and that the "End Times" are not only "imminent" but welcome, because the Faithful will be "raptured" to Heaven before the Battle of Armageddon takes place in the Middle East. The handy Rapture Index at raptureready.com helps them determine just how "imminent" those End Times are....



Author Marci McDonald

McDonald first raised such questions in an October 2006 feature article for The Walrus, "Stephen Harper & the Theo-Cons," surprising readers by stating that there were "an estimated 70 Evangelicals in [Harper's] Conservative caucus."....

A 2007 article in the Vancouver Sun (August 18, 2007) noted that Harper's cancellation of a proposed national daycare program coincided with the beliefs of Evangelical Christians, who "don't want the state meddling in the sacred duty of raising children." The piece also informed readers that Harper's (and Preston Manning's) Christian and Missionary Alliance Church "has about 2.5 million members and 14,000 congregations worldwide. One fifth of its members live in North America, with Alberta a Canadian hotbed."

The article noted: "Aware that many Canadians are suspicious of Evangelicals, [Preston] Manning last year [2006] organized a series of conferences to urge conservative Christian leaders to tone down their Biblical ‘peel-the-paint-off-the-walls' rhetoric."

Soon after the 2006 election, Harper cancelled the position of National Science Advisor, dismissing Arthur Carty, whose mandate was to provide the Prime Ministger with "sound, unbiased and non-partisan advice on science and technology." Environment Canada also removed all references on its website to the scientific findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the UN-sanctioned group of scientists.

In 2009, Gary Goodyear, Harper's Minister of State for Science & Technology (2008 -- July 2013), oversaw $147,900,000.00 in funding cuts for science programs, leading the Globe & Mail's science reporter to note (March 17, 2009) that some scientists wonder if Goodyear "is suspicious of science, perhaps because he is a Creationist." When asked his views on Evolution, Goodyear told the reporter, "I'm not going to answer that question. I am a Christian, and I don't think anybody asking a question about my religion is appropriate."



Gary Goodyear, Minister of State for Science and Technology

The incident caused a brief media flurry, with the National Post calling it a "pseudo-scandal" targeting "white, male, English Christians." By that point, the Harper government's muzzling of scientists was underway.


"Domestic Extremism"

After McDonald's book was reviewed in the press, little was mentioned in Canada about the issue of Church and State separation, even while Harper doled out $26,000,000.00 to 14 private Christian colleges. The silence continued in March 2011 when Dominionist Evangelical Stockwell Day, acting as Treasury Board president, announced $1,600,000,000.00 in cuts to environmental services across several departments, including a 20% cut to Environment Canada.



Canadian Public Safety Minister Vic Toews

The silence continued in February 2012, when Public Safety Minister Vic Toews announced that environmentalism had been listed among "issue-based domestic extremism" targeted for increased security surveillance. (Fellow Evangelical Deb Grey is now interim chair of Security Intelligence Review Committee, the watchdog that oversees the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.)

Then, in an article for "The Tyee" (March 26, 2012), Andrew Nikiforuk broke the silence, writing of Harper's church that it "believes that the free market is divinely inspired and that non-believers are 'lost'."

Nikiforuk further noted: "Given his government's pointed attacks on environmentalists and science of any kind, Harper would seem to take his advice from the Cornwall Alliance, a coalition of rightwing scholars, economists and Evangelicals. The Alliance questions mainstream science, doubts climate change, views environmentalists as a 'native evil', champions fossil fuels, and supports libertarian economics."

The Cornwall Alliance also "describes environmental regulation as an impediment to God's will: ‘We aspire to a world in which liberty as a condition of moral action is preferred over government-initiated management of the environment as a means to common goals'."




Just weeks after Nikiforuk's article, in June 2012 the Harper government passed omnibus budget Bill C-38, eliminating at least 70 pieces of federal environmental legislation, and then in October passed bill C-45, gutting the federal Fisheries Act and the Navigable Waters Protection Act, while undermining First Nations' land and treaty rights. Then came the deluge of Harper's War On Science, with hundreds of millions in funding and thousands of positions cut from DFO, Environment Canada, and other scientific departments.

At the same time, the then Public Safety Minister Vic Toews cancelled the part-time contracts for all non-Christian prison chaplains, meaning that the federal prison system is now mostly served by Christian chaplains.


"The Cornwall Alliance"

The Cornwall Alliance is an American Evangelical lobby group founded in 2006 by Calvin Beisner, recently described by religiondispatches.org (August 15, 2014) as "the most influential evangelical anti-environmentalist in the United States." Beisner is a Dominionist vehemently against any government regulation of the environment. He is also dismissive of climate science.



Calvin Beisner, founder of the Cornwall Alliance Lobby

That's because Beisner and the Cornwall Alliance believe that "Earth and its ecosystems -- created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence -- are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth's climate system is no exception."

In 2010, at a special function hosted by the (oil industry-backed) Heritage Foundation, the Cornwall Alliance launched a book and accompanying video called "Resisting the Green Dragon", which labelled the environmental movement "one of the greatest threats to society and the church today."




Fully in the free-market, neo-liberal economic camp, the Cornwall Alliance is apparently opposed to collective ownership of parks and wilderness areas, collective ownership of natural resources and utilities, and the collective ownership by First Nations of reserve land and traditional territories. (The Harper government has long been attempting to impose "private property rights" onto First Nations' reserves and governing structures.)

The website thinkprogress.org investigated the Cornwall Alliance in 2010 and found "deep ties to the oil industry," especially Exxon/Mobil and Chevron, as well as direct connections to "longtime right-wing operatives orchestrating the climate science denial machine."

When asked about such ties by the UK's The Guardian (May 5, 2011), Beisner said, "There have been no corporate donations and certainly no oil money," although he did not deny connections to the "climate science denial machine."

Beisner's rhetoric has been heating up lately. In 2013, he called the environmental movement "the greatest threat to Western civilization" because it combines "the utopian vision of Marxism, the scientific facade of secular humanism, and the religious fanaticism of jihad."

Beisner is now also roundly attacking other Evangelical Christian churches which don't take the same hardline stance against environmentalism that he does.


"A well-Oiled Machine"

The Cornwall Alliance is a key member of the Council for National Policy (CNP) -- a secretive organization that is considered one of the pillars of the New Right in the U.S., which recently gained control of Congress in midterm elections through Tea Party Republican wins. Many of the winning politicians (including state governors) are climate skeptics whose campaigns were heavily funded by fossil-fuel interests. They are looking to stop the creation of new wilderness areas, rollback environmental regulation, force through the Keystone XL pipeline, and open the Pacific Coast to energy exploration.



Author Chris Hedges

According to author/activist Chris Hedges, the Council for National Policy brought together Dominionist Evangelicals and the "right-wing industrialists willing to fund them." The CNP meets in utmost secrecy three times per year and gives billions of dollars to right-wing Christian organizations. Its membership and donor lists are not disclosed, and its events are closed to the public and the press. The Council for National Policy is known, however, to have given an award to the billionaire Koch Brothers, who are heavily involved in the tar sands and in funding the Fraser Institute.

Over the years, a variety of rightwing speakers have addressed the CNP, including Ronald Reagan, free market economist Milton Friedman, Dick Cheney, Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, and, in June 1997, Stephen Harper, then head of the National Citizens Coalition (NCC).




According to Michael Harris' new book, "Party of One: Stephen Harper and Canada's Radical Makeover", the membership of the Council for National Policy is "essentially a secret society of wealthy, hard-right Republicans … Their agenda was cleaving to Christian heritage, unqualified support of Israel, a strong military, gun rights, traditional values, and small government -- things Canada's NCC [and Harper] would not find objectionable."



Author Michael Harris

Harris considers Harper's CNP speech to the mostly American audience remarkable in that "Harper was essentially describing the Canadian system of government as a dictatorship run by the Prime Minister of Canada."

Since 2011, the Harper government has cut funding to at least 31 women's organizations and 10 Aboriginal groups across Canada. Since 2012, the Canada Revenue Agency has targeted at least 52 environmental and progressive NGOs for "political activity audits," and recently told Oxfam Canada that "relieving poverty is charitable but preventing it is not."

Reportedly, several of the CRA audits were prompted by complaints from Ethical Oil, which was founded by a former Jason Kenney staffer and has had as its spokesperson Kenney's former executive assistant.


"Foreign Policy"

In January 2014, a Vancouver Sun staff blog noted that on Harper's recent trip to Israel, "ten influential evangelical Protestant pastors and leaders" (including the president of Christian & Missionary Alliance Canada) flew with him, along with 21 rabbis, but "no mainline Protestant leaders" and only one Catholic clergyman (a columnist for the National Post) were invited. The piece explained that "more than 60% of the Canadian population is either mainline Protestant or Catholic," while "Evangelicals make up about 10% of all Canadian voters." The piece connected the trip to the Evangelical belief that current conflicts involving Israel fulfill Biblical prophecy.

In February 2014, the Vancouver Observer's Warren Bell similarly questioned Harper's Israel trip. Regarding the Christian & Missionary Alliance Church, Bell stated that such Evangelical authorities "pinpoint global warming and extreme weather events as an indication that the 'End Times' are imminent (and attempting to mitigate climate change as even against God's will.)"

Could the Cornwall Alliance's clever mix of free-market Capitalism and Dominionist thinking be the impetus behind the Harper government's policy decisions?

Bell thinks so: "This intimate intermixing of religion and politics is entirely new in Canada. The shaping of domestic and international policy by the federal government on the basis of a doctrinaire Christian ideology has really never been seen before."

As a further example, we might consider Harper's sudden about-face regarding Communist China. According to Marci McDonald, "For years, Harper and the Conservative Party had refused to consort with China," but in 2009 Harper sent seven ministerial trade missions to that country. "As it turns out, the Religious Right has played a role in justifying that about-face," McDonald wrote in "The Armageddon Factor".



Stockwell Day, Dominionist Evangelical & Canada's Minister of International Trade

During a trip to China in 2008, Stockwell Day (a Dominionist Evangelical and Harper's Minister of International Trade at the time) met Dr. Zhao Xiao, "a prominent economist and one of the country's rare influential Christians, who is best known for a research paper arguing that the secret to America's financial success is its churches," according to McDonald.



Dr. Zhao Xiao

Dr. Zhao subsequently partnered with the Masters of Arts Leadership program at Trinity Western University (a private Christian college in Langley, BC) to train a new generation of Communist Party officials in ethics. The program was "set up by Don Page, the former external affairs mandarin who … specializes in teaching management techniques modeled on the example of Jesus Christ."

Trinity Western (currently in the news because its law school discriminates against LGBTQ applicants) now oversees "the education of thousands of Chinese officials, even offering them degrees," McDonald wrote in 2010.

Harper allowed the controversial 2012 sale of tar sands company Nexen to Chinese company CNOOC, and he recently signed the FIPA investment deal, which locks Canada into a 31-year agreement by which Chinese companies can sue municipal, provincial and federal governments if they don't like our regulations.

That's especially worrying if those upcoming Trinity Western-educated Chinese officials have been taught that God doesn't like wilderness areas, environmental regulations, and restrictions on divinely-inspired free-market Capitalism....


__________________________________________________________



On October 19, 2015, Harper's Conservative Party was defeated by Justin Trudeau's Liberals, and became the Official Opposition, having won only 99 out of 338 seats where after the previous election they had 166 of 308. This was mainly because of a collapse of Conservative support in southern Ontario, a region that swung heavily to them in 2011. They lost all of their seats in Toronto, and won only three seats in the Greater Toronto Area. They were also shut out of Atlantic/Eastern Canada — the first time in decades that there would be no center-right MPs from that region. Harper was re-elected in Calgary Heritage, essentially a reconfigured version of his former riding.

Hours after conceding defeat on election night, Harper resigned as leader of the Conservative Party, though for the time being he will remain in the new parliament as a backbencher. Harper resigned as Prime Minister during a meeting with Governor General David Johnston, who accepted the resignation, after which Johnston invited Trudeau to form a government on November 4, 2015

During Harper's reign, although they seemed to have been more focused on demonizing environmentalism, science, and medicine, Dominion theo-cons in Canada were several years behind their U.S. counterparts in advancing social issues, like against LGBT folks and abortion. *However*, since the story above underscored the fact that Dominionist advocates of both the U.S. and Canada are indeed collaborating, each learning from the other about their respective efforts, we shouldn't be surprised if we read in the near future a similar story about a Canadian baker and/or physician turning away LGBT customers and patients, respectively.


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I don't see a lot of NBA players speaking about this. I would love to see a reporter ask "so how do you feel about grown men in dresses using the restroom with one of your seven children?".

I can only imagine the response from your average NBA player. These guys are not known for having the most gay friendly ideology.
 
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I'm for making the NBA great again. thumbsup


Well then, The Donald should pledge to eliminate the 3-point shot and once again outlaw zone defenses. That ought to do it!


dude it's called the National Basketball League, not the Shitty Basketball League
 
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I can only imagine the response from your average NBA player. These guys are not known for having the most gay friendly ideology.


When Jason Collins, the first active NBA player to come out as gay, came out in 2014, players across the league were almost uniformly and vocally supportive of him. Charles Barkley specifically said

Charles Barkley wrote:
Everybody played with a gay teammate, Dan. And it's no big deal. First of all, I think it's an insult to gay people to think that they're trying to pick up on their teammates... I had several teammates, I probably had three guys I played with in my 16 years. But like I say, think about Jason Collins, he played on six teams, so six teams played with a gay guy. And so, everybody has played with a gay guy, you just didn't know he was a gay guy. Cause until a gay guy comes out, it's none of your business.


If you had said MLB or the NFL, that would be a different story. But the NBA is pretty progressive about these things.
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If you had said MLB or the NFL, that would be a different story. But the NBA is pretty progressive about these things.


Oh wait, gay is not the same as transgender and you're a bigot for equating the two like I just did.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
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If you had said MLB or the NFL, that would be a different story. But the NBA is pretty progressive about these things.


Oh wait, gay is not the same as transgender and you're a bigot for equating the two like I just did.


You win the internet! That was the best gotcha evah!
You should go outside and take a couple of victory laps around the block.
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jeremycobert wrote:
I don't see a lot of NBA players speaking about this. I would love to see a reporter ask "so how do you feel about grown men in dresses using the restroom with one of your seven children?".

I can only imagine the response from your average NBA player. These guys are not known for having the most gay friendly ideology.


Seven children? I want to say that was mostly likely derogatory, but I can't prove it so I'll leave as a question.
 
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Seven children? I want to say that was mostly likely derogatory, but I can't prove it so I'll leave as a question.


Just looking at the numbers, did I go to low ? I was thinking 6 but then for comedic effect bumped it to 7.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
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If you had said MLB or the NFL, that would be a different story. But the NBA is pretty progressive about these things.


Oh wait, gay is not the same as transgender and you're a bigot for equating the two like I just did.


No, because HB2 isn't just an anti-transgender law (although it is most prominently known for that), but an pro-discrimination law that also harms gays and minorities generally (because the parts of the law that strip protections from trans people also strip them for other minorities).

And seriously, most NBA players are live and let-live about these things, quite possibly on account of the fact that as many of them are extremely large, athletic, and imposing black men, they know a thing or two about how much a pain in the ass the panicky majority can be.
 
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quite possibly on account of the fact that as many of them are extremely large, athletic, and imposing black men, they know a thing or two about how much a pain in the ass the panicky majority can be.


What the what ?!?! holy fucking racism here ! when I mentioned NBA players with too many kids , I was referring to players like Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles or Shawn Bradley and you go right in to the black angle ?

No wonder your opinion on HB2 is so screwed up.
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jeremycobert wrote:
mightygodking wrote:
quite possibly on account of the fact that as many of them are extremely large, athletic, and imposing black men, they know a thing or two about how much a pain in the ass the panicky majority can be.


What the what ?!?! holy fucking racism here ! when I mentioned NBA players with too many kids , I was referring to players like Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles or Shawn Bradley and you go right in to the black angle ?

No wonder your opinion on HB2 is so screwed up.


2/10, boring schtick, try harder
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jeremycobert wrote:
mightygodking wrote:
quite possibly on account of the fact that as many of them are extremely large, athletic, and imposing black men, they know a thing or two about how much a pain in the ass the panicky majority can be.


What the what ?!?! holy fucking racism here ! when I mentioned NBA players with too many kids , I was referring to players like Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles or Shawn Bradley and you go right in to the black angle ?

No wonder your opinion on HB2 is so screwed up.


Oh, so now you have it out for Mormons? You are such an intolerant bastard.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
mightygodking wrote:
quite possibly on account of the fact that as many of them are extremely large, athletic, and imposing black men, they know a thing or two about how much a pain in the ass the panicky majority can be.


What the what ?!?! holy fucking racism here ! when I mentioned NBA players with too many kids , I was referring to players like Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles or Shawn Bradley and you go right in to the black angle ?

No wonder your opinion on HB2 is so screwed up.

Are you disputing his claim that "many of them" (NBA players) are black? You haven't seen a pro basketball game in what, 60 years? That's like same "many of them" (NHL players) are white.
 
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I'm for making the NBA great again. thumbsup


Well then, The Donald should pledge to eliminate the 3-point shot and once again outlaw zone defenses. That ought to do it!


I like the argument for a more stratified salary structure so that organizations can sign good 2nd rate players to smart contracts in an effort to compete with the super-teams.
 
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If you had said MLB or the NFL, that would be a different story. But the NBA is pretty progressive about these things.


Eh..

On Rondo's homophobic slur
“Why would I be surprised? You see it all the time,” Popovich said.

Barkley on locker room talk
"The locker room is racist, homophobic and sexist. And I miss it."

Noah, shamefaced
Arnovitz: How homophobic is an NBA locker room?
Noah: Not at all.
Arnovitz: But f----- is tossed around without people even thinking about it?
Noah: Exactly. But a lot less than you probably think.

 
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And seriously, most NBA players are live and let-live about these things, quite possibly on account of the fact that as many of them are extremely large, athletic, and imposing black men, they know a thing or two about how much a pain in the ass the panicky majority can be.


Maybe they don't like NBA and team fines and, if they're marketable, tarnishing their brand.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
mightygodking wrote:
quite possibly on account of the fact that as many of them are extremely large, athletic, and imposing black men, they know a thing or two about how much a pain in the ass the panicky majority can be.


What the what ?!?! holy fucking racism here ! when I mentioned NBA players with too many kids , I was referring to players like Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles or Shawn Bradley and you go right in to the black angle ?

No wonder your opinion on HB2 is so screwed up.

That would be because North Carolina's House Bill 2 was already screwed up to begin with.


> Excerpts from the March 30, 2016 Politifact.com news analysis by Will Doran entitled:

Gov. Pat McCrory Is Wrong When He says North Carolina's New LGBT Law Doesn't Take Away Existing Rights


Gov. Pat McCrory

Ever since North Carolina passed a new state law banning cities and counties from enacting their own ordinances on discrimination laws, minimum wages and more, Republican leaders have been on the defensive in the face of national attention.

A major talking point has been that, even despite the new law, nothing has actually changed. Gov. Pat McCrory has said as much in person as well as in written statements. Other GOP leaders who supported the bill have done the same.

"We have not taken away any rights that have currently existed in any city in North Carolina, from Raleigh to Durham to Chapel Hill to Charlotte," McCrory said at a press conference Monday. "Every city and every corporation has the exact same discrimination policy this week as they had two weeks ago."

We’re going to focus specifically on the claim about cities. When asked about it at that press conference Monday, McCrory said he was blindsided by the question and couldn’t answer it.

The reporter had asked, specifically, about the status of a housing discrimination ordinance in Greensboro, N.C. and a policy in Raleigh that said any contractors who wanted to do business with the local government needed to have policies forbidding discrimination against gay or transgender people.

Carrboro also has a similar policy for contractors.

A spokesman for the governor later said local housing ordinances wouldn’t be affected, citing a part of the bill that exempts "any private club or other establishment not, in fact, open to the public."

But he had no answers about Carrboro and Raleigh on Monday. He didn’t respond to a follow-up email sent Wednesday. Another spokesman responded only to say he wasn’t the right person to ask.

Perhaps that’s because the law does invalidate those ordinances.



Nick Herman

"He’s completely wrong about that, unfortunately," said Carrboro’s town attorney, Nick Herman, about McCrory’s claim that the law doesn’t take away any existing rights.

Herman said the governor’s comments surprised him. Carrboro, for years, has had a policy that contractors paid by the town must have anti-discrimination policies that include sexual orientation or gender identity. And HB2 specifically says that local governments do not have the right to put any such requirements on contractors.

"I was absolutely shocked to hear that the governor – I give him all presumption of good faith – but for him to claim this bill does not change existing law means he is not being adequately advised," Herman said.

More towns and counties around the state also had in-house anti-discrimination policies that protected local government employees on the basis of sexual orientation and/or gender identity.

McCrory has also said those won’t go away, although some of the officials in those municipalities say they’re skeptical. We interviewed three law professors about it; two disagreed with McCrory and one agreed with him.


No More State Claims For Discrimination

Taking a broader look at the law, it also took away a right that had previously been available to residents of any and every city in the state – the ability to file a state lawsuit over discriminatory firing.

Such claims had been accepted by state courts since the 1980s, but they are no longer valid under House Bill 2.

The new North Carolina Law wrote:
"This Article does not create, and shall not be construed to create or support, a statutory or common law private right of action, and no person may bring any civil action based upon the public policy expressed herein."




Eric Doggett

"This is a seismic issue," said Eric Doggett, a Raleigh lawyer who works in employment discrimination. "It’s huge. It’s a massive loss of rights, and it happened with almost no debate."


Laura Noble, a Chapel Hill employment discrimination lawyer, agreed.



Laura Noble

"I won’t refer to this as a ‘bathroom bill’ because that's really not what it's about," she said. "It’s about the elimination of discrimination protections."


The law does say people who believe they were fired for discriminatory reasons can still bring suits to the state executive branch’s Human Resource Commission.

But Doggett said that group doesn’t have the ability to award damages, like the state courts did until last Wednesday.

"There’s no remedy," he said. "They have no teeth. … If we state it's the public policy of this state not to discriminate on those bases, it doesn’t mean anything if we can't enforce it."

Noble concurred, saying that no matter the state discrimination policy is now, it’s largely meaningless.

"What's the point of having it on the books if there's no sanctions if someone violates it?" She said.

People can still file federal discrimination lawsuits. However, both attorneys said federal courts have a much shorter statute of limitations than state courts – less than six months, compared to three years – which often stops plaintiffs from suing if they have a case but waited too long.



Debbie Durban

Debbie Durban, a corporate attorney with Nelson Mullins who practices in North and South Carolina, has experience defending businesses from discrimination claims. She also said her understanding of the bill is that it takes away state lawsuits, although she said most state claims eventually end up at the federal level anyway.


Politifact's Ruling

Gov McCrory said that with the passage of HB2, "We have not taken away any rights that have currently existed in any city in North Carolina."

That is not true. It took away the rights of cities to put certain anti-discrimination requirements on private contractors, and it nullified existing policies like in Carrboro and Raleigh. It might have also taken away the rights of cities and counties to pass their own in-house anti-discrimination policies, depending on which lawyer you ask.

And it takes away the right of everyone in North Carolina to file a state-level lawsuit alleging a discriminatory firing, according to attorneys who represent both employers and employees in those cases.

But even if you discount the discrimination lawsuit changes and only focus on municipal government powers and rights, McCrory is still wrong.


We rate this claim: False.


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After almost 2-1/2 years, it should come as little surprise that the legal organization behind the recent spate of state "bathroom bills" is none other than the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), the foremost Dominion-theology-driven legal organization in the nation today.


> Excerpts from the April 25, 2016 Mother Jones magazine news story by Samantha Michaels entitled:

We Tracked Down the Lawyers Behind the Recent Wave of Anti-Trans Bathroom Bills
State lawmakers appear to have copied this group's model legislation, sometimes word for word



Anyone who's tuned in to the recent uproar over anti-LGBT legislation in the South (and elsewhere) may be wondering why Republicans are suddenly so worried about bathrooms.

In March, North Carolina became the first state to restrict access to public restrooms according to the sex listed on people's birth certificates — a serious problem for transgender men and women who don't identify with their birth sex. Lawmakers in at least 15 other states, including South Carolina, Tennessee, Kansas, Illinois, and Minnesota, have considered so-called "bathroom bills" this year, with South Dakota lawmakers passing their own version in February before it was vetoed by the governor there.

These bathroom bills may be a form of backlash to the Supreme Court's legalization of gay marriage last summer, and to the growing visibility of transgender people in the media, says Cathryn Oakley, senior legislative counsel for Human Rights Campaign. Yet the speed at which they've emerged across the country, often with similar or identical language, raises the possibility that these bills are part of a coordinated effort.



Cathryn Oakley

"It would be surprising if legislators across the country all had the same idea at the same time," Oakley says.

Many conservative groups have promoted these bills: As my colleague Hannah Levintova reported, three of Ted Cruz's advisers threw their support behind the bathroom bill in North Carolina, as did the Family Research Council.

Another group, the Family Action Council of Tennessee, rallied behind a bathroom bill in its state, along with the executive director of the Tennessee Baptist Convention.

But one conservative powerhouse appears to be particularly influential when it comes to putting bathroom bills on the agenda: a massive, deep-pocketed network of lawyers called Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF).




ADF, which is based in Arizona, has offices around the world, with more than 3,000 allied attorneys and $44,000,000.00 in case funding that it uses to fight for its core issues, which include "religious freedom", "sanctity of life," and marriage and family.

(On filings to the IRS, it says its mission is to "defend the right to hear and speak the truth.")



Alan Sears

The group's president, CEO, and chief counsel is Alan Sears, a former Justice Department official under President Ronald Reagan who wrote "The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today".





The Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) claims to have been involved in 47 legal victories at the Supreme Court, including Boy Scouts of America v. Dale, in which the justices found that the Boy Scouts had a right to bar gay people from serving as troop leaders. (The Scouts lifted the ban last year.)

The Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) also offered legal assistance to the group that put Proposition 8 — a ban on gay marriage — on a California ballot in 2008. Its lawyers have promoted anti-sodomy laws in the United States and abroad, describing gay sex as "a distinct public health problem," and they've defended the right of business owners to decline services to gay couples.

And over the past few years, the group has worked to shape the national debate over transgender people's access to public bathrooms. Back in December 2014, the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) sent a letter to school districts across the country with a recommended policy that would require transgender kids to use private bathrooms or the multi-stall bathrooms corresponding with their birth sex. In the following months, it also proposed model legislation to state assemblies, calling for similar restrictions. In many cases, lawmakers appear to have mirrored or even copied the group's draft while crafting their own bills.

Take Kansas, where lawmakers earlier this year were considering a bill that would have allowed students to sue their schools if they found someone of the wrong sex in the bathroom. Here's the relevant part from that bill:




And here's a nearly identical excerpt from the ADF's model legislation, called the Student Physical Privacy Act:




Or look at North Carolina, which last month enacted HB2, a sweeping anti-LGBT law that, among other things, requires people to use public bathrooms corresponding with the sex on their birth certificates. Here are some excerpts from that law, starting with a definition of "biological sex":

The North Carolina House Bill 2 wrote:
Biological sex: The physical condition of being male or female, which is stated on a person's birth certificate.... Local boards of education shall require every multiple occupancy bathroom or changing facility that is designated for student use to be designated for and used only by students based on their biological sex.... Nothing in this section shall prohibit local school boards of education from providing accommodations such as single occupancy bathroom or changing facilities upon a request due to special circumstances, but in no event shall that accommodation result in ... allowing a student to use a multiple occupancy bathroom or changing facility designated ... for a sex other than the student's biological sex.



Now check out the ADF's Student Physical Privacy Act. It's not a direct replica, but the highlighted phrases show striking similarities:

The ADF's Student Physical Privacy Act wrote:
"Sex" means the physical condition of being male or female, which is determined by a person's chromosomes, and is identified at birth by a person's anatomy.... In all public schools in this State, student restrooms, locker rooms, and showers that are designated for one sex shall by used only by members of that sex.... Students who consistently assert to school officials that their gender is different from their sex, and whose parent or legal guardian provides written consent to school officials, shall be provided with the best available accommodation, but in no event shall that accommodation be access to student restrooms, locker rooms, or shower rooms designated for use by students of the opposite sex while students of the oppose sex are present.



Here's another comparison between sentences in the ADF's model and bills considered last year in Nevada and Minnesota.

ADF model: "In any other public school facility or setting where a student may be in a state of undress in the presence of other students, school personnel shall provide separate, private areas designated for use by students based on their sex."

Nevada: "In any school facility or setting where a pupil may be in a state of undress in the presence of other pupils, a public school shall provide separate, private areas designated for use by pupils based on their biological sex."

Minnesota: "In any other public school facility or setting where a student may be in a state of undress in the presence of other students, school personnel shall provide separate, private, and safe areas designated for use by students based on their sex."


The Kansas lawmakers who wrote their state's bathroom bill found a copy of the ADF model legislation during their drafting process, according to state Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook.



Mary Pilcher-Cook

"We thought it did a good job of being thorough and concise, so we adopted parts of it," she told Mother Jones.


In Minnesota, a state lawmaker told the Minnesota Post that he did not receive outside advice while drafting a new bathroom bill this year, but that he considered the language from legislation in North Carolina and other states. The lawmakers who co-sponsored North Carolina's law did not respond to requests for comment.



Matt Sharp

ADF legal counsel Matt Sharp says it's "unsurprising that some legislators have drawn on ADF's model legislation, while others have chosen to draft using other sources or even entirely from scratch." Lawmakers often look to a variety of outside sources while writing bills, he says, noting that gay rights groups routinely produce model legislation, too.

The network of lawyers has also targeted school districts. Some school officials, including in Virginia, have been taken to court for alleged discrimination after blocking trans kids from bathrooms of their choice.

In 2014, ADF offered to provide free legal representation to any district that was sued for similar reasons.

In 2014 and 2015, the group sent letters to school administrators in Arizona, New York, Missouri, Ohio, and Kentucky, urging them to overturn policies that allowed trans students to use locker rooms and restrooms corresponding with their gender identity.



Jonathan Scruggs

"Protecting young children from inappropriate exposure to the opposite sex is not only perfectly legal; it's a school district's duty," said Jonathan Scruggs, another ADF lawyer. "Letting boys into girls' bathrooms is an invasion of privacy and a threat to children's safety. The school district is actually subjecting itself to potential liability if any of these children encounter any harm."

ADF legal counsel Matt Sharp adds that children's "right of bodily privacy is under attack by the Obama administration's Department of Education," which has argued that blocking trans kids from bathrooms is a violation of Title IX, a civil rights law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in federally funded education programs.

ADF says on its website that it "refrains from participating in or promoting any type of legislation" and "does not lobby government officials." Yet its lawyers have offered testimony and legal analysis to state legislatures in Kansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Colorado in favor of restrictive bathroom bills and against legislation that protect gay and transgender people from discrimination.

Perhaps not coincidentally, one of the first states to seriously consider a bathroom bill, back in 2013, was Arizona — where the ADF is headquartered.


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Ten months ago that North Carolina Republican Gov. Pat McCrory participated in a rally sponsored by David Lane of the American Renewal Project, one of the most prominent Dominionist advocacy organizations in the USA.


> Excerpt from the September 28, 2015 North Carolina Policy Watch report by Rob Schofiel entitled:

Gov. McCrory Prays As religious Group Leader Bashes Gays And Claims That The USA Deserves God's Judgment





Despite having attempted to distance himself from newspaper advertising for a conservative Christian event that featured his image and the words: “Come Join me in a time of worship, prayer, fasting and repentance,” Gov. Pat McCrory did show up and speak at a Saturday event in Charlotte organized by a far right religious group known as the American Renewal Project which argues that the United States is a “Christian nation.”

McCrory used his few minutes on the stage to talk about substance abuse and to ask the people who were in attendance to join in the effort to combat the problem. “We need your help because government cannot do this alone, you can do it, God can do it,” the Governor stated.

What was weirdest and most disturbing about McCrory’s appearance, however, was the spectacle of several middle-aged men crowding around the Governor to lay their hands on him and dispense statements of hate and fear masquerading as “prayer.”

Watch the video below as a fellow who appears to be American Renewal Project founder David Lane makes several remarkable claims, including:

that the United States is “a nation founded on the Bible;”

that “fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;”

that the USA committed the great sin of removing “removing prayer and Bibles from the public schools in 1963 after 350 years as a principal component, as the fixed point in order to judge society,”

that safe, legal abortion has left “55,000,000 babies dead.”

that “homosexuals praying at the inauguration” and “red ink as far as the eye can see” were among the other great sins afflicting the country.


For this, David Lane said, the United States “deserves God's judgment.” He then called on attendees to pray for Gov. Pat McCrory and made several other claims, including that the USA is a nation that was “founded for the glory of God and the advancement of the Christian faith.”


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Other Suggested Reading Via Clickable News-Story Links

North Carolina’s Terrible Anti-LGBT Law Is Even Worse than We Thought

Seven Mountains Dominionism At North Carolina's "Response" Rally For Gov. Pat McCrory

Culture War Politics At David Lane's "Non-Political" Prayer Rally

How An Extreme Anti-LGBT Legal Powerhouse Is Working To Enact "Religious Freedom" Laws

State RFRAs and the Intent to Discriminate: Why the State RFRAs Are in Trouble

The Religious Right’s Radical New Plan: Their Very Real Efforts To Create An American Theocracy In Plain Sight

Christian Right Issues Anti-LGBT Manuals Teaching Legal Discrimination

Bigotry for Me, But Not for Thee: The Religious Right & Its Selective Use of Anti-Discrimination Law

Hobby Lobby's Secret Agenda: How It's Quietly Funding a Vast Right-Wing Movement

Focus On The Family, Alliance Defending Freedom & National Organization for Marriage Leaders Reportedly Met With Author Of Russian "Homosexual Propaganda" Bill


 
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