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Subject: Control Marker and Front Gate rss

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Atanasije Stojkovic
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Can a control marker be placed on a Front Gate or maintaining a presence of Shadow Army forces is required for controlling it? There doesn't seem to be anywhere a "Settlement" icon in that region.
 
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Koolin
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Once you have taken control, you keep control until the other team takes control by reconquering the settlement. To indicate this, even when there are no army units present, you use control markers.

This holds for any settlement (Dale, Northern slope, Camp) and therefore I think it also holds for the Front Gate.
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Atanasije Stojkovic
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Koolin wrote:
Once you have taken control, you keep control until the other team takes control by reconquering the settlement. To indicate this, even when there are no army units present, you use control markers.

This holds for any settlement (Dale, Northern slope, Camp) and therefore I think it also holds for the Front Gate.


Does it? The Front Gate is special in the way victory is imminent if you get to 10 points with it.

This, along with the special case of it NOT being a settlement, also lacking an icon to put a control marker, makes me think capturing it follows different rules all around.

All the rules about passing through, capturing and liberating, very specifically refer to Settlements, of which the Front Gate most definitely isn't. E. g. holding Camp and the Front Gate obviously doesn't grant the Shadow Player the 7th action Die, nor does it allow him to play events that require control of at least 2 Settlements as a prerequisite (or use Bolg's mustering special ability).
 
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Kevin Chapman
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Even though Front Gate is not a Settlement, control of it is a part of the victory conditions, so it must be tracked with a Control marker.
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Atanasije Stojkovic
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Krieghund wrote:
Even though Front Gate is not a Settlement, control of it is a part of the victory conditions, so it must be tracked with a Control marker.


So it only does not count in the case of the 7th die or for playing Settlement related cards?
 
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No, it doesn't count for those, as it's not a Settlement.
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Atanasije Stojkovic
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Krieghund wrote:
No, it doesn't count for those, as it's not a Settlement.


I've just double-checked the rules:

Quote:
- Fortifications (Ravenhill, Front Gate and Eastern Spur) are all worth 4 points each
- Other Settlements are worth 2 points each


So it would seem the Front Gate does count as a Settlement after all, meaning holding Camp and the Front Gate would both get the Shadow Player the extra Action Die as well as allow the use of Bolg's recruitment special ability.

Weird.
 
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Sargeras777 wrote:
Krieghund wrote:
No, it doesn't count for those, as it's not a Settlement.


I've just double-checked the rules:

Quote:
- Fortifications (Ravenhill, Front Gate and Eastern Spur) are all worth 4 points each
- Other Settlements are worth 2 points each


So it would seem the Front Gate does count as a Settlement after all, meaning holding Camp and the Front Gate would both get the Shadow Player the extra Action Die as well as allow the use of Bolg's recruitment special ability.


The Front Gate is not a settlement. It does not have a settlement icon, it's clear as day it is not a settlement.

Your quote does not say it's a settlement, it just says that all the other settlements not mentioned in the previous bullet are worth 2 points, that does not mean that all three previous items are settlements.

If you would have read just above the lines you quoted you'd have seen further, needless, confirmation of this fact.

Chapter XI: Victory Conditions wrote:
Victory in The Battle of Five Armies is based
on the control of key areas on the game board
(Settlements and the Front Gate).
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