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Mad Igor
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As we are currently entering some kind of new cold war, I'm interested if there are any considerations to design / release TS 2.0 with updated map and card decks?

I can imagine some cool cards like "Brexit" or "Ukranian Revolution" or "Edward Snowden" or "Erdogan strikes back"... and the list goes on and on ;-)
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Aren't these things best viewed from the distance of elapsed time? I know that's why I don't play Labyrinth, at least.

Maybe in 15 years, when we know all the fallout (and the winners ... history is always written by the winners)

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15 years? You are very optimistic ;-)
Last time it was a bit longer...
 
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Well, I was going by 2005 - 1989 = 16 years
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Tegarend wrote:
Aren't these things best viewed from the distance of elapsed time? I know that's why I don't play Labyrinth, at least.

Maybe in 15 years, when we know all the fallout (and the winners ... history is always written by the winners)


If winners would allow to play games...

Some time must pass before we will get more balanced and educated view on what was happening for sure. I'm not sure how would I feel to play cards like "Black lives matter", "Yet another act of terror" or "Nationalist batallions atrocities".
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So we can calculate roughly:
2014 - 2058 (based on 1945 - 1989) 44 years + 15 years for analysis...

Release around 2076... I'm not sure if I still can play games without cyberimplantats in my body by that time...
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StevensonJunior wrote:
I'm not sure how would I feel to play cards like "Black lives matter", "Yet another act of terror" or "Nationalist batallions atrocities".


I see your point. I would also have some problems with it...
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Mad Igor wrote:
StevensonJunior wrote:
I'm not sure how would I feel to play cards like "Black lives matter", "Yet another act of terror" or "Nationalist batallions atrocities".


I see your point. I would also have some problems with it...


It's even harder a question for the designer.

Black Lives Matter ... do you make that a card positive for Red Team or Blue Team? And what do you call those teams?

Too early ...
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Mad Igor wrote:
So we can calculate roughly:
2014 - 2058 (based on 1945 - 1989) 44 years + 15 years for analysis...

Release around 2076... I'm not sure if I still can play games without cyberimplantats in my body by that time...


I'll be over 100 at that time. If I'm still alive, the only game I'll be playing is Can I Make it 20 Minutes Without Pooping Myself? devil
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senorcoo wrote:
Mad Igor wrote:
So we can calculate roughly:
2014 - 2058 (based on 1945 - 1989) 44 years + 15 years for analysis...

Release around 2076... I'm not sure if I still can play games without cyberimplantats in my body by that time...


I'll be over 100 at that time. If I'm still alive, the only game I'll be playing is Can I Make it 20 Minutes Without Pooping Myself? devil


You can train!

http://www.kongregate.com/games/rete/dont-shit-your-pants
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Mad Igor wrote:
StevensonJunior wrote:
I'm not sure how would I feel to play cards like "Black lives matter", "Yet another act of terror" or "Nationalist batallions atrocities".


I see your point. I would also have some problems with it...


But in wargames you kill thousands, in some even millions. What's the difference to you?
 
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Kajo wrote:
Mad Igor wrote:
StevensonJunior wrote:
I'm not sure how would I feel to play cards like "Black lives matter", "Yet another act of terror" or "Nationalist batallions atrocities".


I see your point. I would also have some problems with it...


But in wargames you kill thousands, in some even millions. What's the difference to you?


This discussion does not belong here, it belongs in the RSP forums.

Most wargames abstract the more unpleasant political situations away.
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Kajo wrote:
Mad Igor wrote:
StevensonJunior wrote:
I'm not sure how would I feel to play cards like "Black lives matter", "Yet another act of terror" or "Nationalist batallions atrocities".


I see your point. I would also have some problems with it...


But in wargames you kill thousands, in some even millions. What's the difference to you?


This thread was not meant to dicuss ethical problems of wargames...
just to close this ethical topic: I think in this case (for me) the time of events haüpening is to close and I'm not able to abstract from this events and see it just a game / simulation.
I don't play Labyrinth or modern wars for the same reason.
But as stated above thos discussion doesn't belong here.
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Extending the game beyond the end of the Cold War wouldn't fit the theme at all. Hell, the end of the Cold War is unthematic enough that they made an entirely different game about it.
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