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Kevin Goodman
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How do Mage Knight's production values compare to Mage Knight?
 
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I liked what I saw. Cards very clean, smooth finish on them. Minis were okay and detailed similarly to what you would see in Attack Wing / Tactics.

The data tokens were average, but certainly not bad and nothing to really complain about. The dice were okay as well. All the art was crisp and clear (of the few cards I saw.)

I was waiting to buy this one just to see how the quality was, and after playing a game of a friend's copy, I want it in my collection.
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Some people complain about the card quality, but I think they are nice. Similar to what you get in GMT Games. I was never a huge fan of the "linen" cards because the color rubs off faster compared to other card types. Granted, I don't sleeve my cards..
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ibkevg wrote:
How do Mage Knight's production values compare to Mage Knight?


They're exactly the same. 100% identical.
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But I mean...did you actually check to make sure???
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Dreamshadow wrote:
The data tokens were average, but certainly not bad and nothing to really complain about. The dice were okay as well. All the art was crisp and clear (of the few cards I saw.)


In general the quality is on par with MK or slightly better, but I would take issue with these two things. Specifcally, the data crystals are smaller and lighter, and thus harder to handle (they're harder to pick up from the pile and more prone to being accidentally shoved around), and in general feel way cheaper than the MK tokens. And the art was nice for screenshots, but not particularly inspired. However, the most egregious mistake is on the unit cards: with dark logos on a black background it's very difficult to tell from any distance where a unit can be recruited.
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Has anyone else had issues with cutting?

My space tiles are all cut off centre, with many numbers cut in half or even missing and therefore the stars and circles don't match up properly either...also the little ship tokens also, with white showing around the edge and the ship being off-centre.

Do you think they'll replace them?

Russ

Oh, and the box quality is garbage :/

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I also have this issue!
The ship tokens and the away team tokens are all not centred, which isn't too bad, the main issue is with the space tiles, where only the very top of the number is showing and the circles/stars don't match nicely.
I have no idea if they'll replace them :/

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KiLLeR_AP wrote:
I also have this issue!
The ship tokens and the away team tokens are all not centred, which isn't too bad, the main issue is with the space tiles, where only the very top of the number is showing and the circles/stars don't match nicely.
I have no idea if they'll replace them :/



I have my own store which is where I bought my copy from. I emailed my distributor and they are trying to source replacements for me, so you should be able to get them. Try your retailer first perhaps, and then try wiz kids if your retailer can't/won't help
 
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Very very similar production quality.

Star Trek has better dice. Mage Knight has better miniatures. The cards are different, but similar in quality. The tokens are very similar; I prefer the Star Trek enemies, but don't like the larger tokens for marking space ownership etc. Mage Knight has better energy crystals (and why call it "data" in Star Trek??).

Mage Knight also has slightly more streamlined gameplay, but slightly more different encounter sites. I'm really not a fan of the "undiscovered cards" name; what's "undiscovered" about a card you can see and pick up? And the icons for crew, showing who can be recruited where, are awful - far too dark. If I'm allowed to nitpick, the "terrain" isn't as clear either, and the yellow data dice symbol is a very different yellow to the cards.

Overall though, SF:Frontiers isn't Mage Knight 2.0; it is more like Mage Knight 1.05. Which is no bad thing. Forced to choose between them, I'd say "pick the theme you most like, but the Star Trek theme is pretty thin. Still can't decide? Pick Star Trek, it's just a tiny bit cleaner". But if you own Mage Knight, those tiny improvements aren't worth the cost of a cup of coffee, far less the cost of rebuying the game.
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