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Of course, the narrative of the DNC is that he was never one of them anyway, so why should he get the nomination?

(I feel the same way about Trump, by the way.)

Bye, Bernie! Wish you weren't such a sellout!

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was forced to resign as Chairwoman of the DNC after leaked emails revealed she’d tried to keep Sanders from challenging Clinton for the party’s nomination, might even be vindicated—sort of.

Sanders has struggled all along with whether to call himself a Democrat, even ducking the question of his party affiliation, raised by local Vermont media, just days after he declared. He later tried to reinforce that he was, indeed, a Democrat. But Sanders certainly wasn’t a party player—and that’s exactly the concern Wasserman Schultz voiced in the Wikileaks document dump.

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In an April 24 email she received with an article describing the ways Sanders felt the DNC was undermining his campaign, she wrote back, “Spoken like someone who has never been a member of the Democratic Party and has no understanding of what we do.”


If Wasserman Schultz’s job was to ensure that a Democrat got the Democratic party nomination, then she might have been doing her job correctly (even if Bernie’s supporters would disagree).

There’s the additional complication, of course, that Wasserman Schultz was a vocal Clinton supporter, a Clinton surrogate and is now a senior adviser to the campaign, as she’s been officially booted from her DNC duties. But if anyone is vindicating her position, it’s Sanders, dumping the Democratic party as soon as it was no longer useful.
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Yeah, he was using it as a method to get elected. He was always an independent before that.
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Dems conspire against Bernie. Bernie leaves over conspiracy. Dems pat themselves on the back for conspiring against Bernie since he left the party because they were conspiring against him.
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You'll like this Drew:

This?
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Establishment politics are immersed in corruption. Sanders' politics compel him to be true to his constituents who elected an independent. Nothing surprising at all.
 
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Feeling the Bern !

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Drew1365 wrote:
I'm not saying he isn't a sellout, but I would think that this is evidence he isn't as much a sellout as people thought. If he stuck with the party and continued to campaign for Clinton, that would be "such a sellout". Leaving the party is just damage control for his dignity.
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If he stuck with the party and continued to campaign for Clinton, that would be "such a sellout". Leaving the party is just damage control for his dignity.


I assume he was paid for his endorsement and then contractually was allowed to leave upon the news of the leaked DNC memos. I assume the embarrassment for him, allowed him to move his timetable up.

I have no idea how much he was paid, but it had to be a fairly good amount.

Also this seems like it will be wasted as he probably wont be with her now in the fall.

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“Sen. Bernie Sanders will back Hillary Clinton in exchange for speaking opportunities at fall campaign rallies, a fully-funded campaign aircraft and a share of the credit for her hoped-for election"

‘Request a plane and staff for a series of fall rallies in battleground states … plane would be paid for by the DNC,’ according the the Sanders memo, titled ‘End Game 2016’ and addressed to ‘Bernie 2016,'” the report added.
 
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Meh. Much ado about nothing. Something else for tiny minds to get into a lather about.

It's a damn, damn shame, though, that Sanders waited until he was 73 to run for the presidency. We needed this conversation in 1988 or even earlier. Government should be about the people, aka the 99%, and not the 1 percent who already have it made. The 1-percenters can take care of themselves. The rest of us need the government to work for us, not the rich asshats.
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Meh. Much ado about nothing. Something else for tiny minds to get into a lather about.

It's a damn, damn shame, though, that Sanders waited until he was 73 to run for the presidency. We needed this conversation in 1988 or even earlier. Government should be about the people, aka the 99%, and not the 1 percent who already have it made. The 1-percenters can take care of themselves. The rest of us need the government to work for us, not the rich asshats.


And yet, look at who the Democrats chose as their candidate: a rich, greedy, one-percenter who is totally bought and paid for by Wall Street.

Or by pointing that out, am I just a "tiny mind."

Did you realize that every time someone points out something problematic about Hillary or the Democrats, your regular response is "Meh."

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What was the point of selling out at all if he was going to leave the party the next day?
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dandechino wrote:
What was the point of selling out at all if he was going to leave the party the next day?


He didn't "leave the party"
http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-leaves-the-democratic-p...

He just said that his senate seat is Independent.
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lfisher wrote:
dandechino wrote:
What was the point of selling out at all if he was going to leave the party the next day?


He didn't "leave the party"
http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-leaves-the-democratic-p...

He just said that his senate seat is Independent.


So he was never a member?
 
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Tim Kaine didn't recommend or choose Debbie Wasserman Schulz to succeed him.

And DWS may have tried to help Hillary, but she was colossally ineffective in doing so. The answer to "what better way" to lock down the nomination is, well, thousands of things more important than this.
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Tim Kaine didn't recommend or choose Debbie Wasserman Schulz to succeed him.

And DWS may have tried to help Hillary, but she was colossally ineffective in doing so. The answer to "what better way" to lock down the nomination is, well, thousands of things more important than this.


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So, Bernie will go back to the Senate as an Independent exactly as he was before his Presidential run. He will continue to advocate for his positions and he will caucus with the Democrats, just as he has all these years. How is this news?
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Samuraicat wrote:
So, Bernie will go back to the Senate as an Independent exactly as he was before his Presidential run. He will continue to advocate for his positions and he will caucus with the Democrats, just as he has all these years. How is this news?


It seems disingenuous to me to run for the Democratic nomination and exert considerable pressure to modify the Democratic platform and then refuse to join the party that has done so much to accommodate your views. It's not the biggest story of the year, but it does reflect poorly on him. If he doesn't want to belong to the party then maybe he should stay out of its nominating and platform process.
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DaviddesJ wrote:
Samuraicat wrote:
So, Bernie will go back to the Senate as an Independent exactly as he was before his Presidential run. He will continue to advocate for his positions and he will caucus with the Democrats, just as he has all these years. How is this news?


It seems disingenuous to me to run for the Democratic nomination and exert considerable pressure to modify the Democratic platform and then refuse to join the party that has done so much to accommodate your views. It's not the biggest story of the year, but it does reflect poorly on him. If he doesn't want to belong to the party then maybe he should stay out of its nominating and platform process.


It reflects poorly on him in your opinion. I'm of a different mind. It doesn't bother me in the least.
 
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Wait, different people can have different opinions? This is new!
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DaviddesJ wrote:
Wait, different people can have different opinions? This is new!


Exactly. How dare he not show loyalty to the party that showed no loyalty to him. How dare he leave the party that actively worked against him.

That ungrateful wretch!
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Good. I've always said he was an interloper there to rob the Democrats of their candidate with all those 3rd party Bernie voters. I'm glad to see the DNC was successfully able to fend him off, as they should. Next time he should run as a third party, where he belongs.

Too bad the RNC wasn't so successful in flushing theirs.
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How dare he not show loyalty to the party that showed no loyalty to him.


Around 40% of the party voted for him, so this seems demonstrably false.
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DaviddesJ wrote:
Dispaminite wrote:
How dare he not show loyalty to the party that showed no loyalty to him.


Around 40% of the party voted for him, so this seems demonstrably false.


Yes, when I'm talking about the Party, I'm clearly talking about the people that voted for him and not the Party Leaders. Good observation there, Columbo. You sure sussed me out.
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Dispaminite wrote:
Yes, when I'm talking about the Party, I'm clearly talking about the people that voted for him and not the Party Leaders. Good observation there, Columbo. You sure sussed me out.


I've usually got no idea what you're talking about. The Democratic Party is made up of tens of millions of people, so when you talk about "the Party" and you claim that just means three or four out of those tens of millions, that just seems inane.
 
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DaviddesJ wrote:
Dispaminite wrote:
Yes, when I'm talking about the Party, I'm clearly talking about the people that voted for him and not the Party Leaders. Good observation there, Columbo. You sure sussed me out.


I've usually got no idea what you're talking about. The Democratic Party is made up of tens of millions of people, so when you talk about "the Party" and you claim that just means three or four out of those tens of millions, that just seems inane.


I didn't know there were tens of millions who conspired against him. Guess I should read those emails closer.
 
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