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Subject: Sandbox-y Euros that aren't Caverna or Ora and Labora? rss

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The title says it all. I love me some Caverna and just got OEL. Just wondering what other games are out there which might be in this vein.

As for my other interests: I already own Food Chain Magnate (love it) and Through the Ages (love it). I'm slowly getting into 18XX and that has been brilliant as well.
 
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Both have a sandbox feel to them.
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Homesteaders is an easy choice to suggest here.

I can think of several other games with a rotating lineup of tiles or buildings or card available, but I believe you are looking for something where they are all out there and available rather than something like Suburbia, correct?
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Team D20 wrote:
I believe you are looking for something where they are all out there and available rather than something like Suburbia, correct?


Bingo. I like engine building, but I like my engine to be customizable in many different ways with lots of difficult choices throughout. Food Chain Magnate is the best example of this, and thus it is my favorite game!
 
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blu_in_green wrote:
Team D20 wrote:
I believe you are looking for something where they are all out there and available rather than something like Suburbia, correct?


Bingo. I like engine building, but I like my engine to be customizable in many different ways with lots of difficult choices throughout. Food Chain Magnate is the best example of this, and thus it is my favorite game!
In that case, I will more enthusiastically suggest my first recommendation, Homesteaders. It's very sandboxy in the vein of what you are looking for. Maybe also City of Remnants, but that is a bit more of a stretch.
 
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Fields of Arle too obvious?
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ropearoni4 wrote:


and Roads & Boats
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Antiquity - certainly, just as soon as it's reprinted.

Fields of Arle - was thinking this might be a bit samey, but definitely on the radar if I see it at a good price.
 
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Saw the title and came here to post Food Chain Magnate but you've already got it, so i won't bother.
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I was just listening to an older podcast of Secret Cabal and they were talking about My Village as a sandbox. I haven't played it myself, but you might want to check it out.
 
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indigopotter wrote:
ropearoni4 wrote:


and Roads & Boats

I came here to mention those two exact games.
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chearns wrote:
indigopotter wrote:
ropearoni4 wrote:


and Roads & Boats

I came here to mention those two exact games.


R&B doesn't feel as sandboxy as Antiquity. In R&B you have a certain path that you eventually take to get to minting. Now, with the expansion, it could be considered more sandboxy, more directions to go to win than the 2 in the base game.
 
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nbread wrote:
Fields of Arle too obvious?


About as sandboxy as it gets.

Also:
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I think Nippon is a great sandbox Euro, since it allows you to customize how you score, thus giving you a lot of leeway in how you play the game.

On the lighter side, The Voyages of Marco Polo I think provides a lot of options as to how you play the game. The setup is very different each game, so choosing a strategy that will work with that setup is the key to victory.

-1 to the inevitable Terra Mystica suggestion. I think TM railroads more then gives you a sandbox.
 
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in addition to those mentioned, i suggest Small City esp. with expansions.

Antiquity would also be my top pick.
 
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Stupid question, but what does it mean for a game to be "sandbox?"
 
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Stupid question, but what does it mean for a game to be "sandbox?"

To me sandbox means there is very much freedom in how you're trying to win and how to play. There are no clear (best) paths to victory, there are certain victory conditions (one or multiple) and rules of the setting / universe. The players fill in the rest, potentially the strategies vary very much from play to play, and from group to group.

This is opposed to victory point salad, where the goal is victory points, but no clear best way to collect them.
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If you're looking for something lighter weight, Via Nebula has a sandbox feel.
 
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Haven't played it yet but read somewhere that Terraforming Mars is sandbox-ish.
 
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KissellMissile wrote:
I think Nippon is a great sandbox Euro, since it allows you to customize how you score, thus giving you a lot of leeway in how you play the game.


+1 to Nippon
 
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I tried Signiore once and it seriously put me off anything that looks similar (Madeira + Nippon, mainly).

Having said that, I might be willing to try it out if I see it out in the wild. I love deep deep games (18XX, et al), but complexity for the sake of it just isn't my thing (Trajan is my puzzle-y limit, and even that is pushing it).
 
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blu_in_green wrote:
I tried Signiore once and it seriously put me off anything that looks similar (Madeira + Nippon, mainly).

Having said that, I might be willing to try it out if I see it out in the wild. I love deep deep games (18XX, et al), but complexity for the sake of it just isn't my thing (Trajan is my puzzle-y limit, and even that is pushing it).


Well, is it just because they're from the same publisher?
They are still quite different games. Nippon is definitely lighter than Madeira, it has a sandbox feel but I'd say it's not that deep as you might expect. Once you choose how to proceed and make points, the most important thing in the game is timing. It also plays quick! And the workers displacement mechanic is awesome.
 
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