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So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.

But today I found out that the school supplies each student brings are to be shared with the whole class.Apparently this is so no kids feel ashamed or left out if their parents cant afford them.

Is this normal or has my kids school gone off the rails ?



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Folders 6 vinyl 3 prong 2 pocket plain
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Pencils 2/24 packs of Ticonderoga brand
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jeremycobert wrote:
So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.

But today I found out that the school supplies each student brings are to be shared with the whole class.Apparently this is so no kids feel ashamed or left out if their parents cant afford them.

Is this normal or has my kids school gone off the rails ?



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1” 3 ring binder (white) clear view front
Backpack no wheels
Crayola Crayons 1/24 pack
Crayola markers 1 thick
Dry erase markers 4 pack in black
Folders 6 vinyl 3 prong 2 pocket plain
Glue sticks 4 pack
Kleenex 2 boxes
Pencil box (6x9)
Pencils 2/24 packs of Ticonderoga brand
Scissors Fiskars brand 1 pair
Spiral notebooks 4 wide line


I shuddered when I realized that you procreated.
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In our local district, it's shared supplies for the first few years, then binders etc are personal. It's less for 'touchy feely' reasons like you imply, more for practicalities of only needing one big space to keep everything instead of arguing over who brought what.
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Well, my son is going into second grade. They have us buy a "kit", or a box of supplies, that will be used by all in the classroom. I have a feeling once he is out of primary school, and into middle school, he will have his own supplies.
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Here, they ask parents to donate items like that to cover the class for the entire year.

Better than telling the kids who lose their items: Sorry, you don't get another pencil until you bring in your own.
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Never heard of this. Here in Connecticut, the land of the rich and richer each kid brings in his own supplies. Periodically, during the year the teachers will send requests for donations of tissues, or hand sanitizer etc... but I never heard of this sharing supplies concept being used in the schools here.
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Obviously, only some those supplies are dealt with that way (backpacks being the most obvious, but binders are also likely). But for stuff like markers, that's how we do things. We also donate a box of tissues each for the class--does it seem reasonable to you to have one or two boxes open at a time, rather than a separate box for each kid?
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jeremycobert wrote:
I found out that the school supplies each student brings are to be shared with the whole class.Apparently this is so no kids feel ashamed or left out if their parents cant afford them.

Is this normal or has my kids school gone off the rails ?

Why Republicans Suck, Reason #187: They think sharing glue sticks is OFF THE RAILS SOCIALISM!
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My daughter's first grade teacher did that. She took all the kids school supplies such as folders, notebooks etc put them in a big pile then redistributed them to the class. My daughter came home in tears the first day of school because she lost her Disney folders we bought her and ended up with some generic shitty stuff. That was the first of many incidents throughout the year where I argued with the teacher. I went out and bought my daughter all new stuff.

Here's the real kicker, we lived in a pretty wealthy school district. We were one of the poorer parents in that district because we lived in the next town over but the way the redistricting worked we were shoe horned into that school. I often joked how we were let in by accident and how they probably hated us being there.

Let's see some other winners from that school:

Same daughter was being picked on, of course teachers and administrators wouldn't do anything. My daughter makes the girls a card asking to be friends and not fight and my daughter gets in trouble for passing notes.

Same daughter's Kindergarten teacher yelled so much the first day of school at various kids that my daughter was pretty much traumatized. She wasn't used to loud yelling.

Youngest daughter has been tested with a 130+ IQ and was reading at 2 1/2. She wouldn't read in school because she refused to read stupid "See spot run" shit. So we were up at the school constantly because they claimed she couldn't read - despite us demonstrating to them she could by getting her to read them advanced books. She also called her teacher and class mates stupid many times.

School refused to work with her Asperger's and would do many things to trigger her including putting her at a table with boys who aggravated her and then try to punish her. Just move her to a different table with no boys! Problem solved!

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Aggravated my youngest so much she ran out of the school down the street. Then somehow tried to blame us (the parents) because you know we were at home/work. how a teacher let her out of her sight and run out the class and school is fucking amazing.

My youngest can do all the school work her older sister two grades higher can do. I just bought her a kids book on chemistry that she has read about 3 times now. She is doing her own chemistry experiments at 8. Schools refuse to bump her up, or have any kind of gifted program so we home school her now. Works much better.

That whole fucking school was awful and we had nothing but problems. Ironically when my wife and I separated and she moved and enrolled the kids in a "poorer" school the education improved. Pretty much the main reason why I can't stand teachers and their fucking whining about shit. My experience is teachers are too fucking dumb and incompetent to do a real job so that's why they teach. They want summers off, get every federal holiday, spring break, winter break and sometimes fall break but for some reason be paid the same salary or more as a professional worker who gets 1-4 weeks of vacation a year.
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spoon wrote:
Why Republicans Suck, Reason #187: They think sharing glue sticks is OFF THE RAILS SOCIALISM!


Oh sweetie, I am not a Republican. I would say that when William Torrey Harris helped create the national public school system, he being a socialist, may have influenced his roadmap.

I said, I goof on it, but my main complaint here is the lesson it teaches the poor kids. I grew up poor AF, but we always found way to get supplies. These kids are learning horrible lessons from their parents and then the school is hiding these failures from the kids.

We have school supply drives that send back packs of supplies home with the kids. But every year, it never fails that some of these parents cant be bothered to come pick them up.
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jeremycobert wrote:
So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.

But today I found out that the school supplies each student brings are to be shared with the whole class.Apparently this is so no kids feel ashamed or left out if their parents cant afford them.

Is this normal or has my kids school gone off the rails ?



Quote:
1” 3 ring binder (white) clear view front
Backpack no wheels
Crayola Crayons 1/24 pack
Crayola markers 1 thick
Dry erase markers 4 pack in black
Folders 6 vinyl 3 prong 2 pocket plain
Glue sticks 4 pack
Kleenex 2 boxes
Pencil box (6x9)
Pencils 2/24 packs of Ticonderoga brand
Scissors Fiskars brand 1 pair
Spiral notebooks 4 wide line


It is also for convenience, if you have three kids that always have to borrow a pencil or paper or crayons, it just gets a little onerous...

Our district actually provides some supplies like binders in some grade levels as well as glue and erasers. Some supplies like crayons or markers are up to the teachers discretion in how to manage them in class.

I live in a small rural community, with something like 80% eligible for free lunch.
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galad2003 wrote:

Pretty much the main reason why I can't stand teachers and their fucking whining about shit. My experience is teachers are too fucking dumb and incompetent to do a real job so that's why they teach. They want summers off, get every federal holiday, spring break, winter break and sometimes fall break but for some reason be paid the same salary or more as a professional worker who gets 1-4 weeks of vacation a year.


I don't even know where to start... my undergraduate degree is in secondary Ed and I've only got about 2 years of experience to draw from.
1. Teacher are are around snotty nosed kids all day long. When I didn't have this cold I had that one. The only time I felt healthy was after about 5-7 days into a break.
2. Summer vacation is a function of history and good argument could be made for a reduction in the total amount of them.
3. Most states have opted for standardized test that are forcing teachers to "teach to the test" with little creativity and nil time for students that are either challenged or gifted (see IEP).
4. Broad brush analogies are more wrong than right. The way you describe them sounds similar to the "cops just want to kill black men" BS.
5. A room full of kids that would like nothing more than see you blow a gasket and/or cry.
6. Shitty fucking parents that raise "little angles".

I could go on and on and I only did it for 2 years..

Schools have boards... don't like it, RUN for one!


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In my son's expensive private school of doom, the supplies are covered by tuition.

There are plenty of even more expensive private schools of doom around here where you also have to bring in supplies and participate in a whole lot of donation drives. Thousands of dollars per family worth of donations.So it could be worse.
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jeremycobert wrote:
So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.

But today I found out that the school supplies each student brings are to be shared with the whole class.Apparently this is so no kids feel ashamed or left out if their parents cant afford them.

Is this normal or has my kids school gone off the rails ?



Quote:
1” 3 ring binder (white) clear view front
Backpack no wheels
Crayola Crayons 1/24 pack
Crayola markers 1 thick
Dry erase markers 4 pack in black
Folders 6 vinyl 3 prong 2 pocket plain
Glue sticks 4 pack
Kleenex 2 boxes
Pencil box (6x9)
Pencils 2/24 packs of Ticonderoga brand
Scissors Fiskars brand 1 pair
Spiral notebooks 4 wide line


This ain't nothing new, we encountered it 20+ years ago when we moved to OKC and put our kids in public school for the first time (3rd & 4th grade) and it was a shock to the system because we had purchased stuff for our kids without being told that it was communal. Same thing happened, they didn't get to keep their Star Wars folders and such.

So a second trip to purchase generic stuff to replace their special stuff and we were able to get their own folders and such back.

That year in school was an ongoing battle with the school being astonished that we would question such things as no stall doors on the toilets and that we knew the difference between opt-in notes to parents and opt-out notes to parents.

We ended up homeschooling after that year until our kids wanted to go to public high school where different battles were waged.

Back to your topic, our church has 'adopted' a nearby high-risk school and every year we provide each student in the school with a backpack full of supplies and the stock the teachers room with supplemental supplies.
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rcbevco wrote:
6. Shitty fucking parents that raise "little angles".


Those kids are so acute.
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kjamma4 wrote:
rcbevco wrote:
6. Shitty fucking parents that raise "little angles".


Those kids are so acute.


He's just being obtuse in not realizing it !
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jeremycobert wrote:
So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.

But today I found out that the school supplies each student brings are to be shared with the whole class.Apparently this is so no kids feel ashamed or left out if their parents cant afford them.

Is this normal or has my kids school gone off the rails ?


This never happened at my school while I was there, but I heard some classrooms started doing this a few years back.


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jeremycobert wrote:
So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.


You don't seem to know what "socialism" is any more than Bernie Sanders does. How does it feel to be in the same category as that guy?
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DaviddesJ wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:
So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.


You don't seem to know what "socialism" is any more than Bernie Sanders does. How does it feel to be in the same category as that guy?



Oh, sick burn ! You dont seem to know what interesting or funny is.
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jeremycobert wrote:
Oh, sick burn ! You dont seem to know what interesting or funny is.


Obviously, or else I would start all of the interesting and funny threads like you do.
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galad2003 wrote:
One-sided ranty stuff


It would be interesting to know the school's perspective on their experiences with you. While it does sound like there may be some room for improvement in this particular school, try to avoid ignorant blanket statements on how much time teachers spend unemployed each year and how much you might think they earn. It's pretty different from district to district and state to state.
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jeremycobert wrote:
So I often rail about the socialism school system we have in this country in a light hearted way.

But today I found out that the school supplies each student brings are to be shared with the whole class.Apparently this is so no kids feel ashamed or left out if their parents cant afford them.

Is this normal or has my kids school gone off the rails ?



Quote:
1” 3 ring binder (white) clear view front
Backpack no wheels
Crayola Crayons 1/24 pack
Crayola markers 1 thick
Dry erase markers 4 pack in black
Folders 6 vinyl 3 prong 2 pocket plain
Glue sticks 4 pack
Kleenex 2 boxes
Pencil box (6x9)
Pencils 2/24 packs of Ticonderoga brand
Scissors Fiskars brand 1 pair
Spiral notebooks 4 wide line


Yes, in Central Florida. K-5.

Once Middle School starts, you have to have your own stuff.
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I heard on a pretty legit site that all the supplies get pooled and used by the kids to create a giant "Leader Obama Loves You" collage.
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