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So this week, just randomly, has turned out to be Coup and Dead of Winter at our game nights (with some Spyfall and Exploding Kittens to a lesser extent for this conversation).

There has been a lot of lying, deceiving, backstabbing and general mistrust because that's what those games create. Everyone has had a blast and I don't think there are any direct hurt feelings as a result, but tonight as we were packing up I sensed a sort of "deception fatigue" or something, and mentioned "Maybe next time we do a strictly co-op game" and several guys agreed they needed a break from traitor mechanics.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good article or blog post that neatly sums up the Magic Circle principle that I can share with my group? Many of them are new to analog gaming, and I want to make sure that none of the mistrust or deception is bleeding over into the real world. (especially since most of us work together every day!)

Thanks
 
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strict co-op games? Like when we are all cooperating to defeat each other?
 
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No.

Cooperative as in cooperating against the game. Pandemic. Zombicide. Forbidden Desert. Sentinels of the Multiverse. Etc. Etc.

Back on topic, any help with a magic circle description?
 
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JoystickWizard wrote:
Back on topic, any help with a magic circle description?


What is this "magic circle" you are talking about? I looked up the term "magic circle" on wikipedia and it gave me this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Circle_(virtual_worlds)
which has a couple of paragraphs at the end about gaming culture. Maybe a place to start.

But I still don't know what you're talking about.
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It's not a quick article, but the Ludology episode about The Magic Circle was good.
http://ludology.libsyn.com/ludology-episode-79-the-magic-cir...

Ludology Episode 79: The Magic Circle
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bwingrave wrote:
JoystickWizard wrote:
Back on topic, any help with a magic circle description?


What is this "magic circle" you are talking about? I looked up the term "magic circle" on wikipedia and it gave me this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Circle_(virtual_worlds)
which has a couple of paragraphs at the end about gaming culture. Maybe a place to start.

But I still don't know what you're talking about.


I can't remember where I first read about it, it basically says that when you play a tabletop game (or a video game or watch a movie, etc.) you enter a "magic circle" in which you suspend disbelief, might act out of character, betray your friends, etc. depending on the role you are playing, the game's rules, etc. Then we we leave the game, the Magic Circle is broken and what happened in it, stays in it (e.g. don't be mad at me all week because I hoarded food because that was my secret objective in the game)
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fortyfive wrote:
It's not a quick article, but the Ludology episode about The Magic Circle was good.
http://ludology.libsyn.com/ludology-episode-79-the-magic-cir...

Ludology Episode 79: The Magic Circle


thanks! I will give it a listen.
 
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