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Ryan C
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Are you forced to spend cubes and coins if you have them, or can you voluntarily take a neighborly help tile instead of spending resources?

Say it's winter, I need to pay my yellow worker, I have the grain I need in storage, am I forced to spend the grain or can I take a neighborly help tile instead?
 
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Kevin Duffy
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I'm my rules, for both paying taxes and for feeding it says the player "must" pay/feed. The word must here says you cannot choose to take neighborly help. You only take the help if you cannot pay yourself.

Edit: apologies, on reading further, the text "Or do not want to" is there for taxes instead of paying the coin. So you may take a help tile in this case. It still appears that feeding and heating are not optional though.

 
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Peter Hendee
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I do not think it means what you think it means.
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I agree. The rules say you may choose to take neighborly help for taxes even if you can afford them but you must use your goods for food and heat if you have them.
 
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Sean Tompkins
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Agree with what has already been stated... I have one clarification though - we play that to feed/heat you MUST use your goods, but if you don't have the necessary goods you're not forced to use your coin to buy the necessary goods - you can take neighborly help at that point.

What are other's opinions on that?
 
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Magnus Kristiansen
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I asked the same question, but didn't get a response: http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/720097/coins-jokers
 
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Peter Hendee
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seanp wrote:
Agree with what has already been stated... I have one clarification though - we play that to feed/heat you MUST use your goods, but if you don't have the necessary goods you're not forced to use your coin to buy the necessary goods - you can take neighborly help at that point.

What are other's opinions on that?


I agree.

You must use your goods if you have them.
"Take the goods from your barn or from land area storage spaces and return them to the supply. If you do not have enough food to feed your labourers with, then you must take one neighbourly help tile for each missing food. If you do not have enough wood to keep your labourers warm with, then you must take one neighbourly help tile for each missing wood."

You may use a coin if you want to.
"Coins: When paying costs, coins can always be used as wild goods, regardless of their values."

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The FAQ says coins can't be substituted for goods when paying off neighborly help. That strikes me as a detrimental rules exception making this game harder to learn and play with no benefit to game balance or theme.
But don't ask me how I really feel.shake
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