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Mike Bialecki
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What other Gateway games to Gateway games are out there? What others would you like to see?


Edit: I have recently created a Geeklist of all the "Junior" version of popular board games I could find.
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Andrew Kluck
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I have a girl that age as well. We're enjoying Tales & Games: The Three Little Pigs right now.
 
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My 6/4/3 year olds really enjoyed Kids of Carcassonne. My 6yo has moved up to normal Carcassonne without the farmers and does well. I really want to try My First Stone Age.
 
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I worked the North Star booth at Gen Con 2016 and taught Evolution: The Beginning to several families with kids as young as ~5 years old.
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mbialeck wrote:
What other Gateway games to Gateway games are out there? What others would you like to see?


Some games that might make a good transition:

Istanbul
Ogre
Small World
 
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Zwaloo wrote:
I worked the North Star booth at Gen Con 2016 and taught Evolution: The Beginning to several families with kids as young as ~5 years old.


I saw this game at Target while picking up TtR: First Journey. It seemed that it was targeting kids, but it appeared from the back of the box that there was quite a bit of text on the cards. How did the 5 year olds you played with deal with that?
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mbialeck wrote:
Zwaloo wrote:
I worked the North Star booth at Gen Con 2016 and taught Evolution: The Beginning to several families with kids as young as ~5 years old.


I saw this game at Target while picking up TtR: First Journey. It seemed that it was targeting kids, but it appeared from the back of the box that there was quite a bit of text on the cards. How did the 5 year olds you played with deal with that?


That's funny, their ability to read never occurred to me. Off the top of my head, I can think of two separate families with two kids that sat down. One kid was 5-6 and the other was 8-9, maybe. With the smaller kids, we went through the cards ahead of time and the parents and I described the card. Most of the defense cards are simply matching art, the Fat Tissue card means two food per card on the stack, Long Neck means three food, Fertile means a free card, Scavenger means you eat when Carnivores eat, Carnivores mean you eat other species. For the younger kids, it was mostly about matching mom and dad to eat their critters and telling funny stories. The younger kids were pretty quickly taking their own turns with just a few questions here and there.

The older kids (say 8-12) didn't seem to have any trouble at all. It's a less complex version of Evolution, but it's not specifically for kids. It's my new lunch game since it plays in half an hour.
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My First Carcassone is good but inferior to the awesome Monster Factory.

I wanted my kids to like My First Stone Age, but they don't... ...

4 year old LOVED 3 little pigs.


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I don't know of any others that exactly match this category - these *are* the 'power 4' - but I wanted to say your gateway-to-gateway collection looks great! thumbsup

ETA- And to answer your question, I think the Forbidden Island/Pandemic duo belong on that shelf. Either that or we're due for a younger Pandemic Junior (My First Pandemic sounds awful!) albeit with a much gentler theme for ages 5+.
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mbialeck wrote:
What other Gateway games to Gateway games are out there? What others would you like to see?



One link that comes to my mind is that Ghost Fightin' Treasure Hunters is often mentioned as a streamlined version of Flash Point: Fire Rescue. Obviously it doesn't have that brand recognition....
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munchkin treasure huntgateways into munchkin. My daughter loves it! It takes the funny card aspect with fighting monsters, and helping your friends, but removes the "take that" aspect. (they are coming out with an alice in wonderland version of this soon)
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RenaissanceMom wrote:
I don't know of any others that exactly match this category - these *are* the 'power 4' - but I wanted to say your gateway-to-gateway collection looks great! thumbsup

ETA- And to answer your question, I think the Forbidden Island/Pandemic duo belong on that shelf. Either that or we're due for a younger Pandemic Junior (My First Pandemic sounds awful!) albeit with a much gentler theme for ages 5+.


Clearly it should be about an outbreak of various strains of cold at grade school.
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I think that New York 1901 is a terrific gateway.

d10-1 It has simple rules.

d10-2 It starts out very open but gets tighter and has more difficult choices as the game progresses.

d10-3 There are good choices to be made. What parcels of land to claim? What buildings to build and where? How does this affect your future plans/opportunities? When do you demolish and rebuild? How does this affect your competition for Street majorities and Challenge bonus points.

d10-4 I think you could introduce this without the Street bonus cards and Bonus Challenge cards and then as players get more used to the simple mechanics and the implications of their choices you can introduce those bonuses.

d10-5 It is visually appealing, has nice components and you get a sense of accomplishment. In TtR you see the routes you've travelled. In this one you see the real estate empire you've built.
 
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SaintGiles wrote:
RenaissanceMom wrote:
I don't know of any others that exactly match this category - these *are* the 'power 4' - but I wanted to say your gateway-to-gateway collection looks great! thumbsup

ETA- And to answer your question, I think the Forbidden Island/Pandemic duo belong on that shelf. Either that or we're due for a younger Pandemic Junior (My First Pandemic sounds awful!) albeit with a much gentler theme for ages 5+.


Clearly it should be about an outbreak of various strains of cold at grade school.

Or head lice. gulp
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Other than the obligatory Carcassonne, I played these with my son when he was 5:

Lift Off!
Tales and Games: the Hare and the Tortoise
Agricola: All Creature Big and Small
Small World
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Kodama: The Tree Spirits is a great game and something I have enjoyed with my 5-year-old. I have seen Small World recommended above but I personally found that one difficult to teach my little one.

Don't be afraid to adopt the rules to make games easier. For example, with Ticket to Ride, we play with the cards face up so everyone can see them. You can also drop the farmer when playing Carcassonne. You can alway drop these rule changes later on and your daughter develops mastery and it means that you don't have to waste money of junior versions of games that you won't play once she is older.
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mbialeck wrote:
What other Gateway games to Gateway games are out there? What others would you like to see?


Well, it hasn't made it out of Germany (yet), but there's Scotland Yard Junior too.
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We're just working on the first transition with SET Junior. My 5.5 year old is ready to flip the board and try the "harder" side (finally!) and then I'm looking forward to moving on to SET when he's ready.
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pusboyau wrote:
mbialeck wrote:
What other Gateway games to Gateway games are out there? What others would you like to see?



One link that comes to my mind is that Ghost Fightin' Treasure Hunters is often mentioned as a streamlined version of Flash Point: Fire Rescue. Obviously it doesn't have that brand recognition....


Ghostfighting treasure hunters is a great game! Really recommend it! Played it a lot with my then 6-7 year old, but he has now moved on to Forbidden Island which itself is a gateway to Pandemic :-)
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Maxxor wrote:
pusboyau wrote:
mbialeck wrote:
What other Gateway games to Gateway games are out there? What others would you like to see?



One link that comes to my mind is that Ghost Fightin' Treasure Hunters is often mentioned as a streamlined version of Flash Point: Fire Rescue. Obviously it doesn't have that brand recognition....


Ghostfighting treasure hunters is a great game! Really recommend it! Played it a lot with my then 6-7 year old, but he has now moved on to Forbidden Island which itself is a gateway to Pandemic :-)


+1 to Ghost Fightin' Treasure Hunters. We featured it in a ninth birthday party for our son, in German, with a halfway house between the easy and difficult rules.
 
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Castle Panic is a great gateway to co-op games in general. We've played both that and Forbidden Island with kids as young as 4.

Mice & Mystics or Hero Kids are both good intros to role-playing. Mice & Mystics is more all-inclusive, but also more reading and strategy; there are some very stripped-down modules of Hero Kids suitable for non-readers (as long as you have an adult GM).
 
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