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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chad-copley-kouren-thoma...=&

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jonb wrote:


Is this article implying that Zimmerman was white?

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For some reason I find the repeated refrain of "I'm gonna secure my neighborhood" particularly chilling.
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The shooter was apparently in his house, then went outside, fired, then walked back inside to call police. Most stand your ground laws allow for no retreat, but they don't allow for pursuit or actively seeking to engage. Not sure if walking outside the relative safety of your home to shoot at someone qualifies. But I'm sure his lawyers will try to make it !
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TheDashi wrote:
jonb wrote:


Is this article implying that Zimmerman was white?



It depends on who is writing the article. If it's Huffpo then he's white. If it's Fox he's probably Hispanic.
 
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So, like, should they have just shot him first in this situation?
 
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Shit, literally everything Copley did was wrong.
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"They were showing a firearm, so I fired a warning shot and we got somebody."

Someone does not understand the concept "Warning shot". shake
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This story has no similarity to the Zimmerman case. Zero, nada zilch. It feels like HuffPo is now actively trying to start a race war.
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jeremycobert wrote:
This story has no similarity to the Zimmerman case. Zero, nada zilch. It feels like HuffPo is now actively trying to start a race war.


Goddamn Jeremy, what is WRONG with you?
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jeremycobert wrote:
This story has no similarity to the Zimmerman case. Zero, nada zilch. It feels like HuffPo is now actively trying to start a race war.


Sounds like the race war is already going on...in the shooter's head !

 
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Fer fucks sake, how in the hell is that like the Zimmerman case?

Guy shoots into a loud party after calling the police?

You people and your fake drama are out of control. Are you even lying to yourselves at this point?
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Koldfoot wrote:
Fer fucks sake, how in the hell is that like the Zimmerman case?

Guy shoots into a loud party after calling the police?

You people and your fake drama are out of control. Are you even lying to yourselves at this point?


The notable point of similarity is actually really clear: The guy self-proclaimed neighborhood watch, and it was an important concept to him.

Leaving out other details "Self-proclaimed 'neighborhood watch' vigilantes shoot black kids on the street" applies to both.
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Uhhh. It is an important concept to you, and the fake news report, apparently.
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What is inaccurate in the news report? In your world, did the victim live?
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Koldfoot wrote:
Uhhh. It is an important concept to you, and the fake news report, apparently.


Zbzine beat me to it, but yeah what's fake about the report, Brian?
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windsagio wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
Uhhh. It is an important concept to you, and the fake news report, apparently.


Zbzine beat me to it, but yeah what's fake about the report, Brian?


The fact they compared it to Zimmerman.

It may be somehow similar. If it is they did not clarify.
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Koldfoot wrote:
windsagio wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
Uhhh. It is an important concept to you, and the fake news report, apparently.


Zbzine beat me to it, but yeah what's fake about the report, Brian?


The fact they compared it to Zimmerman.

It may be somehow similar. If it is they did not clarify.


Reading is fundamental. Seriously, if you can't even see the similarities after actually reading the piece then there is little hope you'll actually understand the similarities.

I'll break it down a bit more for you:
Self proclaimed neighborhood watch white guy safe in his home leaves said home because he sees black people in his neighborhood and somehow feels threatened. He leaves the safety of his home and shoots an unarmed black person dead.
That's similar to Zimmerman like this:
Self proclaimed neighborhood watch white guy safe in his truck leaves truck because he sees black people in his neighborhood and somehow feels threatened. He leaves the safety of his truck and shoots an unarmed black person dead.

You're welcome.
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jonb wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
windsagio wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
Uhhh. It is an important concept to you, and the fake news report, apparently.


Zbzine beat me to it, but yeah what's fake about the report, Brian?


The fact they compared it to Zimmerman.

It may be somehow similar. If it is they did not clarify.


Reading is fundamental. Seriously, if you can't even see the similarities after actually reading the piece then there is little hope you'll actually understand the similarities.

I'll break it down a bit more for you:
Self proclaimed neighborhood watch white guy safe in his home leaves said home because he sees black people in his neighborhood and somehow feels threatened. He leaves the safety of his home and shoots an unarmed black person dead.
That's similar to Zimmerman like this:
Self proclaimed neighborhood watch white guy safe in his truck leaves truck because he sees black people in his neighborhood and somehow feels threatened. He leaves the safety of his truck and shoots an unarmed black person dead.

You're welcome.


Oh.

You're unfamiliar with the Zimmerman case.

You had me wondering there.
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jonb wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
jonb wrote:


Is this article implying that Zimmerman was white?



It depends on who is writing the article. If it's Huffpo then he's white. If it's Fox he's probably Hispanic.

Well call them out on it. You leftists need pushed into the corner to admit anything. This is why we hate the left so for being so weak and dishonest.
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Diabolik771 wrote:
jonb wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
jonb wrote:


Is this article implying that Zimmerman was white?



It depends on who is writing the article. If it's Huffpo then he's white. If it's Fox he's probably Hispanic.

Well call them out on it. You leftists need pushed into the corner to admit anything. This is why we hate the left so for being so weak and dishonest.


Who should be called out for it ? Fox for calling him Hispanic, or Huffpo for calling him white ? What exactly are we "leftists" supposed to admit ?

Now back to the correct point I made which seems to have eluded you in your quest for...well...I have no idea. The point being, it is similar to the Zimmerman case in the very clear way I cited above.

 
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windsagio wrote:
Leaving out other details "Self-proclaimed 'neighborhood watch' vigilantes shoot black kids on the street" applies to both.


Except this guy was not a member of any neighborhood watch.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-youngster-kil...

It does not exist in this neighborhood.

Zimmerman's Neighborhood Watch program was not registered with the National Neighborhood Watch Program, but was administered by the local police department.

Copeley shot from within his garage at a large crowd of black males.

Zimmerman was physically assaulted and shot one male.

Copley will probably do time unless he can prove the males were moving into assault him or his property.
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It's kind of weird to see Jeremy as the rational voice on a thread.
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jeremycobert wrote:
Zimmerman was physically assaulted and shot one male.
Or... Zimmerman physically assaulted one male and shot him when he had the audacity to defend himself. That is the rub, no one knows for sure because Zimmerman killed the only witness.
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Zimmerman was physically assaulted and shot one male.


Correction. Zimmerman exited the safety of his truck, pursued Martin on foot, was possibly assaulted, then shot his pursuant dead.

Either way you slice it, stand your ground laws don't typically allow for pursuit as an option. Leaving the safety of your house to shoot into the street ( I have not seen any reports that the victim was actually on Copley's property ) is not legally legit. He's going to have a hard time defending his actions here.
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