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Markococo
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Hmmm. I'm gonna choose, let's see, err...Marvel Knights and Illuminati I think, as my two groups.
How tf is that Avengers v X-Men?
Anyone see a disconnect here?

If I want to play Avengers v X-Men I am quite capable of picking Professor X or Iron Man as the Mastermind and filling the 'Villain' and Hero decks with the appropriate personnel. Hey presto.

I mean, after all isn't this why we have about 25 villain groups made up of heroes?

Why do we need a (totally inaccurate and disconnected) scheme to dictate this?!

Oh, that's right. We don't.

I mean, couldn't they have called it 'Pit two teams against one another'? OK, not that lol, but yknow, something more generic along those lines?

Seems like a little bit of laziness creeping in to me.

Anyway. Sorry. Rant over - I love this game but stuff like this just bugs me.

Not as much as that Jessica Jones art though!!! Woaaaaah. Appallingly bad.




 
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Okay.
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Misfiring Chong
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It's just the theme where two groups of good guys fighting each other. It's named as Avengers v X-Men because in this set and the base set together you realistically only can choose Avengers and X-Men as there isn't enough heroes of other teams. Remember, schemes must work without any other expansions.
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I've not played it yet, but game-play wise I think this could be one of the most interesting schemes in the set.

I think this scheme was designed to work thematically with the black panther/storm divided card-set.

I'm glad they gave you a bit more thematic freedom to do other things with it though, by letting it be any two affiliations rather than being similar to say the Kree-Skrull war, which would have worked game-play wise with any almost any two villain groups really, but insists on you using the Kree and Skrull ones.
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Itai Rosenbaum
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If the scheme would have specifically instructed you to select 3 Avengers and 3 X-Men, would that have been better?

I think it's blindingly obvious that had that been the case, the first question that would've popped up would be "Well, can't I use Marvel Knights instead? What if I want to stage an epic Illuminati vs. Cabal battle royale? Why can't I do that?"

This way, it's clear what the comic-based inspiration for the scheme is, but it leaves it open to stage your own scenarios with variations on the theme...
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Plus, in the comics, aren't both teams trying to accomplish similar goals: Figuring out how to deal with the Pheonix Force? They just have different plans and aren't working together (mostly cause their plans clash). So I think the scheme works for that.
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Misfiring wrote:
It's named as Avengers v X-Men because in this set and the base set together you realistically only can choose Avengers and X-Men as there isn't enough heroes of other teams.

It's called Avengers vs. X-Men because many of the Schemes in this set are callbacks to specific comic book events. Civil War, Civil War II, Charles Soule's Civil War, Dark Reign.
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IronSyndicate wrote:
If the scheme would have specifically instructed you to select 3 Avengers and 3 X-Men, would that have been better?

I think it's blindingly obvious that had that been the case, the first question that would've popped up would be "Well, can't I use Marvel Knights instead? What if I want to stage an epic Illuminati vs. Cabal battle royale? Why can't I do that?"

This way, it's clear what the comic-based inspiration for the scheme is, but it leaves it open to stage your own scenarios with variations on the theme...

And, as I always like to do, it lets us set up very interesting stories for our gameplay sessions. I only wish we could have had a Young Avengers affiliation - Avengers vs. Young Avengers???
 
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dontfeedthegreen wrote:
I've not played it yet, but game-play wise I think this could be one of the most interesting schemes in the set.

I think this scheme was designed to work thematically with the black panther/storm divided card-set.

I'm glad they gave you a bit more thematic freedom to do other things with it though, by letting it be any two affiliations rather than being similar to say the Kree-Skrull war, which would have worked game-play wise with any almost any two villain groups really, but insists on you using the Kree and Skrull ones.


Yeah I like that you can use other groups too - I just wish it was called something else.







 
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Would Hydra and SHIELD be considered equivalent terms for this? Could I have Nick Fury, Elsa Bloodstone and Skadi as a team vs another group?
 
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djhalstead wrote:
Would Hydra and SHIELD be considered equivalent terms for this? Could I have Nick Fury, Elsa Bloodstone and Skadi as a team vs another group?


SHIELD has enough heroes spread over various expansions to hit the required 3: Elsa Bloodstone, Nick Fury, Agent X-13, and Steve Rogers.

So Skadi, Kingpin, Bullseye, and Speedball are all out of luck for now. It would be kind of cool to make a "no affiliation" team. They have more than 3 if you have most of the expansions: Deadpool, Silver Surfer, Ultron, Arkon, and Winter Soldier (and the pariahs Howard and Man-thing if you tracked them down).
 
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To be honest I'd have thought "Avengers vs. X-Men" would have been a no brainer as a future big box theme.
 
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It's fine. You really have the option. Play Avengers vs. X-Men if you want, play whatever else if you want. Not a problem for me.
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Enthrones the Barons of Battleworld makes a great scheme for forming a new Sinister Six, or Brotherhood...or any villain/hero group.
 
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Finally played this scheme solo last night. Found it by no means simple. Hard enough to build a good deck from 6 heroes, nevermind added complication that mixing dome of them will gain you wounds.

Didn't help that I was up against Maria Hill either. She is insanely hard.
 
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