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The thing is, if the NSA has the tools capable of hacking into these devices, then other players could have these exploits as well. Engineered in parallel of the NSA.

I would almost rather the tools released, and allow the vendors to patch closed these secret exploits the NSA has kept secret from those vendors, than let them stay open and risk exploits to remain in the shadows.
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bjlillo wrote:
I'm not sure they're secret. The vendors might very well have given them to the NSA intentionally.


I doubt these vendors would release products with built in exploits, and trust that the NSA would be the only player able to use them.

If they did, which is a distinct possibility, that is a dumb thing to do on their part. Especially when they sell products globally. It would be a contract nightmare for them.
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This is what we get when the best code crunchers in America are out in Silicon Valley debugging the latest iteration of World of Warcraft and Grand Theft Auto.
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remorseless1 wrote:
This is what we get when the best code crunchers in America are out in Silicon Valley debugging the latest iteration of World of Warcraft and Grand Theft Auto.
You pay peanuts and the humans will work elsewhere.
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slatersteven wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
This is what we get when the best code crunchers in America are out in Silicon Valley debugging the latest iteration of World of Warcraft and Grand Theft Auto.
You pay peanuts and the humans will work elsewhere.


NSA is a glory job, like working for NASA. They attract talent, only for the reason that their employees get to play spy games. It's true though that the pay is pretty weak...well, unless you calculate in the retirement package. Federal pensions are nothing to laugh at.

I interviewed for them after college. Didn't want to live in D.C.
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MWChapel wrote:
I doubt these vendors would release products with built in exploits, and trust that the NSA would be the only player able to use them.





On the off chance you are:
http://www.computerworlduk.com/security/7-security-backdoors...
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damiangerous wrote:
MWChapel wrote:
I doubt these vendors would release products with built in exploits, and trust that the NSA would be the only player able to use them.




Let's just say, the bigger issue with this story, is that if they can prove that these tools were intentionally left open for the NSA, then it's game over for the global corporations that are Cisco, Juniper, and Fortinet.

Seriously. When your whole job is to sell security firewalls(around the world), and are selling doorways to government agencies.

Game over. You're through.
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MWChapel wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
This is what we get when the best code crunchers in America are out in Silicon Valley debugging the latest iteration of World of Warcraft and Grand Theft Auto.
You pay peanuts and the humans will work elsewhere.


NSA is a glory job, like working for NASA. They attract talent, only for the reason that their employees get to play spy games. It's true though that the pay is pretty weak...well, unless you calculate in the retirement package. Federal pensions are nothing to laugh at.

I interviewed for them after college. Didn't want to live in D.C.


That's the other problem - pay is mediocre, but on top of that you have to live in an area of the country with some seriously SHOCKING real estate prices. Nevermind the godawful traffic...
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