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If we had the ability to remove our own images, would you explicitly check for images worth retiring?

Let's assume you get to "keep the thumbs" even though you remove the image.

Let's also assume you have to nominate a substitute image to be displayed wherever your image used to be displayed in a thread or geeklist.
(EDIT: ie nominate an existing image. Being able to upload a replacement image is a separate challenge.)

I know I have a couple of images I would retire.

(Edit: So I vote "yes" and give the thread a thumbs up. )
 
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Yes, there a few that I'd remove.
 
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At first my reaction was, "oh yeah, some need to go". Just look at some of them.

But then after thinking about it, I don't think I would. Most of them are early pictures and I think it's great to see how my pictures have changed and evolved over time. To get rid of the bad ones would be like erasing part of a voyage.

Sometimes it is good to look back at where you started so you can enjoy the here and now even more.
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Good question.

I actually had thought about this - and determined that there are a few I might be inclined to retire. In addition, as one's photo skills improve (and the more images I take for use here, the more discriminating I have become), this kind of feature would allow you to "redo" some of your older images without having them rejected as "too similar" if the older image is no longer there. Just a thought.
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jgrundy wrote:
If we had the ability to remove our own images, would you explicitly check for images worth retiring?
Yes

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Let's assume you get to "keep the thumbs" even though you remove the image.
Not an issue for me, I don't think any of my images that I would consider deleting have garnished many thumbs. Perhaps a thumb envy microbadge is required

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Let's also assume you have to nominate a substitute image to be displayed wherever your image used to be displayed in a thread or geeklist.
Not so sure about this part, that could be tantamount to changing the content on other people's lists. I would suggest that a deleted image be replaced by the representative image (which is the default if you choose not to specify an image). It would be nice if the owner of any GeekList using that image were GeekMailed to notify them that the image has been replaced so that they could check to see if they wish to choose a new image for their list, although the expression icing on the cake does spring to mind.
 
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As IronMoss said, I'd like to be able to delete a couple of them just to have the opportunity to re-do. I have a better camera now.
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You can ask to replace files with newer / better versions (which seems to result in losing the thumbs and a new file ID), something similar should be possible with images.
 
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This could be done, but I think the possibility database corruption keeps me from doing it. (wiki, aritcles, geeklists referencing those images).
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Aldie wrote:
This could be done, but I think the possibility database corruption keeps me from doing it. (wiki, aritcles, geeklists referencing those images).

I can understand that problem. Whenever I ask a file to be replaced, I have to change all links to refer to new version manually. Wouldn't it be possible for the new, improved version to have the same ID (both in images and files)?
 
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Yes. And then I'd post them back, and earn gg again!
 
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gmcnish wrote:
Yes. And then I'd post them back, and earn gg again!
I hadn't noticed that devil streak in you before Gregor cool
 
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Lajos wrote:
Aldie wrote:
This could be done, but I think the possibility database corruption keeps me from doing it. (wiki, aritcles, geeklists referencing those images).

I can understand that problem. Whenever I ask a file to be replaced, I have to change all links to refer to new version manually. Wouldn't it be possible for the new, improved version to have the same ID (both in images and files)?
This works for uploading a new better version of something.

What would be needed would be a translation layer. Behind the scenes, change the underlying table name and create a view over it with the same name as the original table. Then you can manipulate the view so that any fetch that asked for image 123 actually returned image 456 if 123 had been removed.

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jgrundy wrote:
Let's also assume you have to nominate a substitute image to be displayed wherever your image used to be displayed in a thread or geeklist.
Not so sure about this part, that could be tantamount to changing the content on other people's lists. I would suggest that a deleted image be replaced by the representative image (which is the default if you choose not to specify an image).
Problem is I almost always explictly select images for relevance to my geeklist discussion at the time. I'd rather someone made an attempt to replace it with a sensible facsimile than go back to the representative image, which is usually now just the box shot.

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It would be nice if the owner of any GeekList using that image were GeekMailed to notify them that the image has been replaced so that they could check to see if they wish to choose a new image for their list, although the expression icing on the cake does spring to mind.
That'd be nice, but harder to search out than you might imagine. (If you could do that, you could also just replace all those references instead of the translation layer I'm suggesting above.)
 
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jgrundy wrote:
Karlsen wrote:
It would be nice if the owner of any GeekList using that image were GeekMailed to notify them that the image has been replaced so that they could check to see if they wish to choose a new image for their list, although the expression icing on the cake does spring to mind.
That'd be nice, but harder to search out than you might imagine. (If you could do that, you could also just replace all those references instead of the translation layer I'm suggesting above.)


It all depends on the indexing (that is, or is not, already in place)cool
 
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Karlsen wrote:
It all depends on the indexing (that is, or is not, already in place)cool
Well the images get embedded arbitrarily in text. While it's possible Aldie already added code to track every edit of text and add/remove entries in a table of image usage, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have done so.

Geeklist entries is easy, and has such an index.


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What would be needed would be a translation layer. Behind the scenes, change the underlying table name and create a view over it with the same name as the original table.
btw something similar would be good for merged game entries.
 
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jgrundy wrote:
If we had the ability to remove our own images, would you explicitly check for images worth retiring?

5 out of 559 images. Quite bad box cover shots (among the first images i uploaded), for which i have now provided better ones.

Oh, and a few more, if i happen to stumble over them. I noticed for one of my old shots, someone else has uploaded a better one. But i don't think i would search all images to find such instances.

And i might upload a better replacement image for some of my very old component shots, if i am able to substitute the old ones.

So for my images, not woth to program such a thing. That's because many of my images (and about all of the old ones) were for games with only very few other images before (and not much more now).
 
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Yes, there are a few I would remove and then replace with better (sometimes scanned) images. As it is now, I don't really want to upload another box top image when I've already uploaded an inferior version.
 
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There are a few of mine that I would like to "replace" with a better shot.
 
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Hell yes I would. I have been wanting something like this for a while.

I would say it has to be replaced with a nearly identical -though better quality- image. The only way to do this effectively would be to have it go through a process of geekmodding.

But that opens up a whole bucket of worms.

And I understand the difficulty of replacing the image within geeklists and such.

It would be a great thing to be able to do and I believe it would raise the over all quality of the site. However, with all of the potential to break the site as well, I don't hold much hope it will be implemented.
 
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Oh, I would most definitely delete some of my images. Afterall, I only submitted them for the GG. I mean, seriously, what other reason do we submit images for? You know what I'm saying?

Also, I took one of my images during a, uh, Greek Toga Debauchery Party and the reflection off of one of the more shiny surfaces is a little too revealing, if you know what I mean...
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joebelanger wrote:
I mean, seriously, what other reason do we submit images for? You know what I'm saying?


I submit mine for the fame, fortune and accolades.


But, there are a couple that haven't earned me enough fame, so I'd delete those.
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Jatoha wrote:
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I mean, seriously, what other reason do we submit images for? You know what I'm saying?


I submit mine for the fame, fortune and accolades.


But, there are a couple that haven't earned me enough fame, so I'd delete those.


I've submitted a couple in the hopes that the Pulitzer board would see them and nominate me. No such luck. But hope springs eternal.
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I have yet to submit any images but I am already overcome with fear that I will regret them quickly so knowing ahead of time that I could delete them would be great.

I was thinking about what gmcnish said, and I think it should cost Geek Gold to have the image deleted. That might seem insane, but it's only fair to take back what was given to you. Also, if you just plan on uploading a better version you will get it right back and you will be where you were in the first place.

I think jgrundy is right, but I don't completely understand his verbiage, so I'll tell you what I would try to do (having VERY little understanding of how BGG's code actually works). I think that when the image is deleted, the entry in the database should not be; it should get a new property saying it's been deleted, whenever another piece of code accesses that image in the database it checks for a delete flag and acts accordingly. If the code were trying to display the image it would instead display the representative image. If the code was generating the gallery for a given game it would see the flag and skip on over to the next image. Etc. There are tons of scenarios but it may be possible to work around them all given enough time and effort.
 
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joebelanger wrote:
Also, I took one of my images during a, uh, Greek Toga Debauchery Party and the reflection off of one of the more shiny surfaces is a little too revealing, if you know what I mean...
Well that's one way to get people to scan through your images.

(Maybe they'll thumb some along the way?)

It's a bit like when you say, "omg a car just hit a cat in the street out front and there's cat guts spattered all over the road" at which point everyone rushes to the window to look. (?!?!??)
 
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Why should I 'bother'? These seem to become "outdated" and "updated" ALL by their lonesomes! Were I to LOSE anymore "GG"s from this, then I'd be BACK in the 'hole' again!
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jgrundy wrote:
joebelanger wrote:
Also, I took one of my images during a, uh, Greek Toga Debauchery Party and the reflection off of one of the more shiny surfaces is a little too revealing, if you know what I mean...
Well that's one way to get people to scan through your images.

(Maybe they'll thumb some along the way?)

It's a bit like when you say, "omg a car just hit a cat in the street out front and there's cat guts spattered all over the road" at which point everyone rushes to the window to look. (?!?!??)


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