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Preparing to play this for the first time on Saturday. My group plays a lot of 18xx so complexity isn't an issue, I'm just wondering how people generally prefer to play this one.
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As already mention on the list, basic for being the more blunt and uncompromising game.
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clearclaw wrote:
As already mention on the list, basic for being the more blunt and uncompromising game.


I do appreciate the input Just casting a wide net.
 
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I play advanced game, no etrains usually.
We played with etrains once and no one even bought the eticket to buy one.

I like the token buying rules. More opportunities to keep your whites their whitest.
 
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Basic only.
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e.e.goings wrote:
I like the token buying rules. More opportunities to keep your whites their whitest.


I missed the earlier, harder and less compromising commitments. There was too much ability for players to bail themselves out of the trouble they'd failed to prevent earlier.
 
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I like sharp edges as much as the next guy, but if I want to get these games to the table, I have to include little escape hatches for the "casual" 18xx players I'm surrounded by, or I wouldn't get face to face games.
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e.e.goings wrote:
I like sharp edges as much as the next guy, but if I want to get these games to the table, I have to include little escape hatches for the "casual" 18xx players I'm surrounded by, or I wouldn't get face to face games.


Too bad you can't be like,
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Wait, he said sharp edges. Not pointy elbows.
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Casual wasn't meant in a derogatory sense. I have lots of gamer friends who will play an 18xx, but don't study it. I am lucky to have them.

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e.e.goings wrote:
Casual wasn't meant in a derogatory sense. I have lots of gamer friends who will play an 18xx, but don't study it. I am lucky to have them.



Sorry Tyler, absolutely anyone who will play 18xx is pure gold. The term "casual" is used often in competitive video games, and reminded me of this classic meme. I'm too lighthearted, I had no serious intention behind my post.
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No worries, I just hoped I hadn't been misunderstood. That was also the first time I've seen that meme before, so I guess I'm a little out of touch with the competitive video game world as well. ☺
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Jasonbartfast wrote:
Preparing to play this for the first time on Saturday. My group plays a lot of 18xx so complexity isn't an issue, I'm just wondering how people generally prefer to play this one.

Well, Sunday 8/21 already past, but -

I would recommend starting with the basic rules.

We played the basic rules a couple of times and then switched to the advanced game, which we prefer.

There seem more sharp edges with bonds, while the basic game seemed more static by comparison. Purchasing tokens across railroads also offers some interesting twists. (We did try switching back to basic, after playing advanced, but missed the dynamics of the bonds.)

We never played with E-trains. Given the expensive cost vs the small game size/length, they seem superfluous, but we never actually tried them.
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We ended-up playing the basic game. I can see how the bonds would take the edge off in one respect (more money is available) but also how buying stations would add a different edge. Next time I will probably try the advanced game, just to see. It's hard to see how much of a difference the E variant would make, besides enabling larger late-game runs.

Overall we really enjoyed it. These days I'm drawn more to the shorter games, as they are easier to get to the table and to use as teaching games. Sorry I don't have more specific thoughts / recollections at the moment - it was a while ago and I'm writing this 7 hours into a 12 hour work day...
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Great to stumble upon this thread! I've played 1849 once (Advanced game - Tyler's suggestion) and plan my second go this coming weekend. My group, much like Tyler noted, are a few casual 18xx players - also really thankful I have even the two in my city who are willing to play at the drop of a hat!

One further question - has anyone played the electric dreams variant enough to comment on the dynamics this adds to the game? What I'm hearing is that it seems simply too expensive to get the E trains off the ground.
 
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