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Hamhock DeShabado
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Looking for a page number or a thread that defines what a monster is so far all I have seen is the contents page that leads me to believe that monsters are only the three different Sins models.
 
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Dan Harrow
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VWValker wrote:
Looking for a page number or a thread that defines what a monster is so far all I have seen is the contents page that leads me to believe that monsters are only the three different Sins models.

I can understand the question, as the game rule book can be interpreted as a bit ambiguous in that it specifies that "Acolytes" are different from "Sin Monsters", but all Sin-controlled figures are considered Monsters (ref: the Fight section of the rule book).

Is there any particular reason that you care to make the distinction between Monsters and... something else?
 
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Hamhock DeShabado
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Yes the summon phase I believe don't have a rule book handy said something like summon "monsters" so was just wondering what exactly it is that we can summon.
 
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Dan Harrow
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VWValker wrote:
Yes the summon phase I believe don't have a rule book handy said something like summon "monsters" so was just wondering what exactly it is that we can summon.

When you summon monsters, you can summon any previously-killed monsters figures. This includes Acolytes, Abominations, the Controller, or even the Avatar figure.

The catch, again, is that they have to be dead monsters. Make sure you keep monsters that have not yet entered the game separate from those who entered the game and were killed by the Heroes.

On page 17, it refers to an "Acolyte Monster" in the Summon example.
 
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Patrick Reynolds
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All figures controlled by the Sins player - avatar, controller, abominations, acolytes, Hell Club members and those bonus baddies (kid on worm monster and the mayor) are considered monsters in addition to their other designations.

Some cards or effects might targets only abominations, for example, but stuff that says 'monster' applies to any of those things.
 
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Hamhock DeShabado
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Where does it say this?
I feel that this is an important definition that should be clearly stated in the rules.
 
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Flavio Santos
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VWValker wrote:
Where does it say this?
I feel that this is an important definition that should be clearly stated in the rules.


You will find the most obvious indication on page 7, where the components are listed.
 
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J H
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I thought I read that the Hell Club members cannot be summoned back because once they are killed they are removed from the game. Summoned monsters are placed in a "killed monsters" area in front of the SIN player so they can be summoned between rounds.
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Richard Keene
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I thought I read that the Hell Club members cannot be summoned back because once they are killed they are removed from the game.

This is correct. Hell Club members are special in that once they are killed they are removed from the game. They are still, however, considered monsters for all other facets of the game.
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Brian Torrens
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If you look in the index in the back, it refers you to page 7 for "Monsters". Page 7 shows the list of 39 Monster figures in the base set. Two sets of 8 Sin monsters, 5 Hell Club and 18 Acolytes. So it would appear that all of the Sin player's figures are classified as "Monsters".
 
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Dan Harrow
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Also, this question was officially answered by Thiago Aranha of CMoN; the answer was posted in another "FAQ" thread.

Q: Does the term "Monster" refer to all figures controlled by the Sin player? (i.e. Acolytes, Abominations, Controller, Avatar, Hell Club, etc.)

A: Yes, all figures controlled by the Sin player are Monsters.

Reference - FAQ Thread
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pkreynolds wrote:
All figures controlled by the Sins player - avatar, controller, abominations, acolytes, Hell Club members and those bonus baddies (kid on worm monster and the mayor) are considered monsters in addition to their other designations.

Some cards or effects might targets only abominations, for example, but stuff that says 'monster' applies to any of those things.


So if scenario rules says "mark X monters to players to kill" this mean that Sin player can mark also avatar as one of this monsters?
 
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Rocy7 wrote:
So if scenario rules says "mark X monters to players to kill" this mean that Sin player can mark also avatar as one of this monsters?

Yes, and they most definitely should mark the Avatar.
 
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Francisco Mirri
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Also hell club members are treated as monsters, but on apocalypse cards it states that once killed they are removed from the game but in the last mission Rise of the hell club you can summon them once dead
 
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