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Brandon Ciantar
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Right now as it stands there are around 170 epic cards, I was thinking of bumping that amount to the thousands by making my own epic cards, sorta like a PNP. I would use them only for me and my gf. Is this legal?
 
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Brandonboards wrote:
Right now as it stands there are around 170 epic cards, I was thinking of bumping that amount to the thousands by making my own epic cards, sorta like a PNP. I would use them only for me and my gf. Is this legal?


I don't know anything about Maltese law. In Germany, it would be legal, as long as you don't distribute the cards in any way. So no uploading to the internet/sharing/... without (written) permission to do so. The problem mainly lies in using the artwork of the frames and such, whose copyright is with WWG (they've been asked before whether they were willing to release some kind of toolkit for creating custom cards, but seemed not too fond of the idea).

As I said, I have not a clue about Maltese law, though.
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Marco Schaub
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I'm pretty sure this is legal.
 
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Don't forget there are also copyright issues surrounding any artwork you might cull from the internet (Dungeons & Dragons, Pathfinder, etc) to create your cards. The copyright is usually held by the publisher and possibly by the artist who created the original work.

In the United States you would be violating copyright law, but since your usage is confined to yourself, it's unlikely to be prosecuted. In most cases, copyright violation in the U.S.A. really boils down to visibility, damaging the brand (adult content), or making money off the intellectual property. Playing in the basement with your friends or the local game store is one thing, showing up to GenCon with custom cards or posting files on the Internet is another thing entirely.

With that said, the enforcement is pretty lax because there's more lose (legal fees, customer ill-will) than to gain from enforcement.

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Ian Taylor
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Not a lawyer.

Go nuts, have fun, don't get on our radar. (Distributing our art/design assets, even for free, is a good way to get on our radar.)

Again, not a lawyer. The legal department might have a different take on this.

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Brandonboards wrote:
Right now as it stands there are around 170 epic cards, I was thinking of bumping that amount to the thousands by making my own epic cards, sorta like a PNP. I would use them only for me and my gf. Is this legal?


As long as you don't obtain any material benefit from it you can do whatever you want under the EU law regarding this matter.
 
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Jo Bartok
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Even if you release the cards as Photoshop without the frames you can't get into any trouble. If you keep propotions people can apply whatever frames they want to. Just keep an empty or dummy/own frame layer (basically image <-> frame layer <-> text and icons).

You can also just design your own frames. Keep in mind to use free images or create your own.
 
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Dom Hiob
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rulezfin wrote:
Brandonboards wrote:
Right now as it stands there are around 170 epic cards, I was thinking of bumping that amount to the thousands by making my own epic cards, sorta like a PNP. I would use them only for me and my gf. Is this legal?


As long as you don't obtain any material benefit from it you can do whatever you want under the EU law regarding this matter.


Not a lawyer, but I'm doubtful about this. For example, you may not upload copyrighted material and release it online, even if you don't materially benefit from it. The point is that the copyright owner can show that you materially damaged him (because rather than buying his product, people would just download it from your site).

TL;DR: I woulnd't bet on that.
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