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Allen Cordell
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I haven't played this game yet, but from my understanding the characters wake up naked in a weird place with no idea how they got there and eventually have to build settlements and battle monsters to survive. Though the details are different, the general premise reminds me of 'To Your Scattered Bodies Go,' the book by Philip José Farmer where characters wake up naked next to a seemingly endless river in some strange place not knowing how they got there. They eventually build settlements and go on adventures, etc. I wonder if there was any inspiration derived from 'To Your Scattered Bodies Go,' or if it's just pure coincidence.

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By far the most obvious influence IMHO is Berserk, though I've heard a lot of Monster Hunter. I've never heard of that book, but it's definitely possible, though.
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spiralingcadaver wrote:
By far the most obvious influence IMHO is Berserk, though I've heard a lot of Monster Hunter. I've never heard of that book, but it's definitely possible, though.


I also see a lot of Berserk (and Dark Souls) and Geiger in it too.
 
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Probably only Poots knows the answer to this, but the KD world is definitely exponentially darker than that of the Riverworld novels (of which "To Your Scattered Bodies Go" is the first book). Especially since a major part of that world is that permanent death is rare... which is pretty much the opposite of KDM

Interesting connection though, there are definitely some surface similarities and it wasn't a comparison that had ever come to mind for me.
 
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hervuli wrote:
Probably only Poots knows the answer to this, but the KD world is definitely exponentially darker than that of the Riverworld novels (of which "To Your Scattered Bodies Go" is the first book). Especially since a major part of that world is that permanent death is rare... which is pretty much the opposite of KDM

Interesting connection though, there are definitely some surface similarities and it wasn't a comparison that had ever come to mind for me.


Yeah, I didn't mean the darkness or aesthetic or even the philosophy of it, I just meant the premise of characters waking up naked in a strange world, not knowing how they got there and forming settlements, etc... felt similar to me. And on top of that all of the other influences mentioned above.
 
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Honestly, I'm most reminded of the Belly of the Beast (gluttony's stomach) in Full Metal Alchemist.

It also helps that if Envy were a miniature, he'd look right at home on the Plane of Faces.

 
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Mockerre wrote:
spiralingcadaver wrote:
By far the most obvious influence IMHO is Berserk, though I've heard a lot of Monster Hunter. I've never heard of that book, but it's definitely possible, though.


I also see a lot of Berserk (and Dark Souls) and Geiger in it too.


I'm going to be the odd one out and say there isn't that much Beserk. I really don't see them as that similar to assume he was inspired by it. All they share is big scary monsters.
 
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Fen, having not played the original WHQ, cool to hear that reference.
Zenman12 wrote:
[...]there isn't that much Beserk. I really don't see them as that similar to assume he was inspired by it. All they share is big scary monsters.



Zen, really? I mean, really? You think this didn't inspire KD?




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Zenman12 wrote:
Mockerre wrote:
spiralingcadaver wrote:
By far the most obvious influence IMHO is Berserk, though I've heard a lot of Monster Hunter. I've never heard of that book, but it's definitely possible, though.


I also see a lot of Berserk (and Dark Souls) and Geiger in it too.


I'm going to be the odd one out and say there isn't that much Beserk. I really don't see them as that similar to assume he was inspired by it. All they share is big scary monsters.


...yeah. No. The above picture is plenty of inspiration similarity, but also the Slayer and Perfect Slayer swords are pretty much 1:.9 representations of Guts' sword.

Then there is the Hand, with his exposed brain case, looking very similar to the Godhand Void. Google that in images, some NSFW there.

Then there is the parallel theme with Berserk, being that one very human and falliable man is forcing himself to go out and hunt beings that BREAK REALITY AS IT IS CONCEIVED. Compare and contrast with survivors hunting monsters.

And let's not forget dragons that become men and vice-versa.

So...yeah. It isn't a perfect simacrulum of Berserk. But 7 out of 10 is pretty close.
 
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spiralingcadaver wrote:
Fen, having not played the original WHQ, cool to hear that reference.
Zenman12 wrote:
[...]there isn't that much Beserk. I really don't see them as that similar to assume he was inspired by it. All they share is big scary monsters.



Zen, really? I mean, really? You think this didn't inspire KD?






Forgot about the stone faces there. Hm been a while since I seen it. Point taken. But really. I was thinking of the story about a bandit guy that gets a demon mark and goes to this hellish place where his leader turns on the group (and turns into a monster himself). I dunno.
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Oh, yeah, the story isn't very similar, but there are a ton of world/aesthetic parallels.
 
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I don't see any influence from Farmer; the waking scenarios are too different. Survivors are blank slates, innocents really, when they wake into an otherworldly nightmare. The people of Riverworld carry all their memories with them, making that world a remix of this one.

Riverworld is all about how much difference exceptional individuals can make in the world. Kingdom Death is all about a world too alien and hostile to understand or change.

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emmit svenson wrote:
I don't see any influence from Farmer; the waking scenarios are too different. Survivors are blank slates, innocents really, when they wake into an otherworldly nightmare. The people of Riverworld carry all their memories with them, making that world a remix of this one.

Riverworld is all about how much difference exceptional individuals can make in the world. Kingdom Death is all about a world too alien and hostile to understand or change.



Yeah, no, I get that they're about very different things and have very different philosophies, just the basic premise for each is similar. It's kind of like David Lynch's 'Lost Highway' and Michael Haneke's 'Cache.' Though they're completely different movies in every way imaginable, both begin with a character finding a VHS tape on their front step that depicts camcorder footage of their own house recorded on it.



 
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I think it's likely that both Poots and Farmer were alluding to the creation of Adam and Eve in Genesis.
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emmit svenson wrote:
I think it's likely that both Poots and Farmer were alluding to the creation of Adam and Eve in Genesis.


Um....

Whoa....
 
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