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Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?
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God bless America... don't get me started. How about "Non-Specific Possibly Imaginary Deity or Deities Bless America "
 
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Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.
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One nice thing about the 'Banner is that the God stuff is at the end and is never really sung.
 
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Of course, there are other alternatives...


Scar Spangled Banner
[Music & Lyrics (G. Holt)]

Oh say can you fucking see
The missiles fall like rain
Bloody mountains majesty
Dead bodies on the plain
By the bombing's eerie light
See the crimson waves of red
What so proudly they all fell
The twilight of the dead

[Chorus:]
America - the violent
The indifferent
God shit his grace on me
America - the arrogant
The belligerent
Will live in infamy
We the people, for no people
Secure the blessings of tragedy
Do ordain we have established
The scar spangled banner

[Solo - G. Holt]

We pledge allegiance to no god
Only to the blood
Liberty is just a dream
When dying in the mud
This, the land of the deceived,
Home of the depraved
Bombs, they drop like falling leaves
And the deadly flag still waves

[Repeat Chorus]

Red - the beautiful color of blood
Flowing like a stream
White - the color of bleaching bone
Lovely and obscene
Blue - the bruising color of flesh
Battered, ripped and torn
The colors of the flag of hate
Of violence and porn
What you see is what you get
You haven't seen the bloody trail yet
I'm no patriot, just a hate-triot

Blood sport, my sure bet
See the flag, get a body bag
Salvation from a .44 mag.
Nothing left, no one saved
Cause our goddamn motherfucking bloody-ass
Banner still waves
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DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


Unfortunately, if there were any attempt to replace it then we'd probably end up with Jerusalem (at least in England), which is equally dirge-y. I say we just nick La Marseillaise off the French - it's obviously the best one.
 
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At least "Oh, Canada" is in my vocal range.
 
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Kester wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


Unfortunately, if there were any attempt to replace it then we'd probably end up with Jerusalem (at least in England), which is equally dirge-y. I say we just nick La Marseillaise off the French - it's obviously the best one.
You all already have "God Save The Queen" by The Sex Pistols lying around. It's got a nice little melody, you should give it a whirl.
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Kester wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


Unfortunately, if there were any attempt to replace it then we'd probably end up with Jerusalem (at least in England), which is equally dirge-y. I say we just nick La Marseillaise off the French - it's obviously the best one.


Just note that God Save the Queen - at least in the verses that are used nowadays - has a theme of defend our country and its values whereas La Marseillaise has an attacking theme.
Also note how many other countries use, or have used, the tune of GSoQ as a patriotic song (America (My country 'tis of thee); Liechtenstein; formerly Germany (before Uber Alles); and others)
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remorseless1 wrote:
Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?


perhaps this
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Kester wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


Unfortunately, if there were any attempt to replace it then we'd probably end up with Jerusalem (at least in England), which is equally dirge-y. I say we just nick La Marseillaise off the French - it's obviously the best one.


Just note that God Save the Queen - at least in the verses that are used nowadays - has a theme of defend our country and its values whereas La Marseillaise has an attacking theme.
Also note how many other countries use, or have used, the tune of GSoQ as a patriotic song (America (My country 'tis of thee); Liechtenstein; formerly Germany (before Uber Alles); and others)


That's as may be, but La Marseillaise has that scene in Casablanca.
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DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


And that's not mentioning the verses which go on about beating up the Welsh and Scottish.
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DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.
Yes, but I also think most people do not really give a shit.
 
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remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?


Every now and then the lyrics to O Canada get updated to reflect the fact that we now consider women to be people or some other modernization. There's usually a fierce reaction involving the blue-haired brigade writing angry letters to the Globe and Mail and yokels passing around internet memes about wanting their country back. But the fact is, no one even sings the damned thing anymore except schoolchildren and mumblers at sports events.
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aiabx wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?


Every now and then the lyrics to O Canada get updated to reflect the fact that we now consider women to be people or some other modernization. There's usually a fierce reaction involving the blue-haired brigade writing angry letters to the Globe and Mail and yokels passing around internet memes about wanting their country back. But the fact is, no one even sings the damned thing anymore except schoolchildren and mumblers at sports events.

Why would it matter? It's not like Canada is a real country or something... laugh
 
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remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.


Dude, you *asked*.

For that, I get one free cheap shot at your country. I haven't decided if it will be guns or Trump.
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aiabx wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?


Every now and then the lyrics to O Canada get updated to reflect the fact that we now consider women to be people or some other modernization. There's usually a fierce reaction involving the blue-haired brigade writing angry letters to the Globe and Mail and yokels passing around internet memes about wanting their country back. But the fact is, no one even sings the damned thing anymore except schoolchildren and mumblers at sports events.

I grew up across the river from Canada and my great-great-grandparents were Canadians. I do know, "Oh, Canada my home and native land...land of the something ...i... something ,something... on thee!" So what your saying is that I could recailm my Canadian heritage pretty easily.
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Come on, you know this is inevitable.



Maybe for the 2020 Olympics?
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Kester wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


Unfortunately, if there were any attempt to replace it then we'd probably end up with Jerusalem (at least in England), which is equally dirge-y. I say we just nick La Marseillaise off the French - it's obviously the best one.


Just note that God Save the Queen - at least in the verses that are used nowadays - has a theme of defend our country and its values whereas La Marseillaise has an attacking theme.
Also note how many other countries use, or have used, the tune of GSoQ as a patriotic song (America (My country 'tis of thee); Liechtenstein; formerly Germany (before Uber Alles); and others)


One of the obvious alternatives to God Save the Queen is Land of Hope and Glory. Great tune (Pomp and Circumstance March number 1 by Elgar) but perhaps a little jingoistic. Rule Britania might also hit that (and it's not as good).

As for Jerusalem, here is the response.

No. No. No. No.
Shan't. Shan't. Shan't. Shan't. And you're wasting your time there.
 
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DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


And that's not mentioning the verses which go on about beating up the Welsh and Scottish.


Only the Scots. No need to sing about defeating the Welsh, that was a long done deal.

(And I think that third verse was never official. The second - which I had to learn - is just defeating generic enemies.)
 
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Only the third stanza of the Deutschlandlied is our anthem nowadays. The first two are frowned upon, because of all the über alles and the, er, controversial geographical borders mentioned, you know.
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aiabx wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.


Dude, you *asked*.

For that, I get one free cheap shot at your country. I haven't decided if it will be guns or Trump.

Why choose? Surely you can take a shot with Trump and guns.
 
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There are, broadly speaking, two opinions on the matter in Australia.

The first is that we should have Waltzing Matilda (a rather poor poem that hijacked a lively and popular folk tune, telling the story of suicidal sheep thief) as our anthem.

The second is that we don't need a bloody anthem.

Nobody likes Advance Australia Fair.
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Only the third stanza of the Deutschlandlied is our anthem nowadays. The first two are frowned upon, because of all the über alles and the, er, controversial geographical borders mentioned, you know.
I remember when I was in Germany and being drunk and starting to sing the uber alles part and I was quickly shushed and told that it isn't sung anymore. The person was very polite, but I did get stern looks. Drunk americans, what can you do?
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DavidDearlove wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Okay, Eurotrash, Asiantrash, Strayan shits, and, of course, Canadians.

The US has a national anthem just like every other country: The Star-Spangled Banner. It's okay, but it's hard to sing and sounds a little off at times. A lot of Americans would like to see "America the Beautiful" as our anthem, and others would like "God Bless America."

Just wondering if, in those god-forsaken hell holes you call home, is there any similar controversy with your anthems?

Our national anthem (UK) is dull and is a paean to the monarch not the country. As I am a republican I hate it. The Welsh and Scottish wisely use better songs whenever they can.


Don't you sing "Land of hope and glory" any time you get the chance? That way, you are just as smart as the Scots and Welsh.
 
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