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Hungary has been busy:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/hungary-build-border-f...

 
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I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this
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TheChin! wrote:
I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this


Not a real worry.

6' chainlink fence runs $35 a foot with professional installation.

Double that cost. Figure 2000 miles of border. Looking at chump change. 700 million and change. The Clinton Foundation could foot the bill.
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Koldfoot wrote:
TheChin! wrote:
I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this


Not a real worry.

6' chainlink fence runs $35 a foot with professional installation.

Double that cost. Figure 2000 miles of border. Looking at chump change. 700 million and change. The Clinton Foundation could foot the bill.


Could do it for way less if you just hired some dudes from out in front of Home Depot.
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Koldfoot wrote:
TheChin! wrote:
I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this


Not a real worry.

6' chainlink fence runs $35 a foot with professional installation.

Double that cost. Figure 2000 miles of border. Looking at chump change. 700 million and change. The Clinton Foundation could foot the bill.


fences are cheap. Even good tall ones. Just a casual read of some of the history of the cattle business in the American West (Texas up through Montana) will stagger you once you understand the scope of how much fence was actually installed, cheaply and efficiently, by wagon and sledge. The first ranch that was fenced in required 150 miles of barbed wire. 150 miles is the rough equivalent of a shit ton. And that ranch was just an experiment to see if the stuff worked. Which it did, just ask any Trenchfoot from WWI.

This is why, to me anyway, the idea that fencing off the border between America and Mexico being cast as too expensive or impractical is just dumb. It's cheap and fences work really, really good. Even big long ones. We can build that fence easy.
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DWTripp wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
TheChin! wrote:
I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this


Not a real worry.

6' chainlink fence runs $35 a foot with professional installation.

Double that cost. Figure 2000 miles of border. Looking at chump change. 700 million and change. The Clinton Foundation could foot the bill.


fences are cheap. Even good tall ones. Just a casual read of some of the history of the cattle business in the American West (Texas up through Montana) will stagger you once you understand the scope of how much fence was actually installed, cheaply and efficiently, by wagon and sledge. The first ranch that was fenced in required 150 miles of barbed wire. 150 miles is the rough equivalent of a shit ton. And that ranch was just an experiment to see if the stuff worked. Which it did, just ask any Trenchfoot from WWI.

This is why, to me anyway, the idea that fencing off the border between America and Mexico being cast as too expensive or impractical is just dumb. It's cheap and fences work really, really good. Even big long ones. We can build that fence easy.


It's not the fence that is expensive, its the land. Much of the border is either privately owned or in Tribal lands. Even with Eminent Domain, buying up land along thousands of miles will cost quite a packet.

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Fences work when combined with lots of expensive humans on duty 24x7.

And even then



If american companies would stop hiring them, it would go a long way.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-debate-fact-checking-...
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Trump made the same argument in the Times article, but the story includes quotes and stories from American workers who applied for the jobs and would have been happy to take part-time work.

Rubio also made reference to illegal immigrant labor in the construction of Trump Tower: "If he built the wall [between US and Mexico] like he built Trump Tower, he'll be using illegal immigrant labor to do it," Rubio said.

"Look it up: 'Trump Polish workers,'" Rubio instructed debate watchers. "You'll see a million dollars for hiring illegal workers on one of his projects. He did it."

That accusation is true: Trump was even sued for using 200 illegal workers from Poland to build Trump Tower in 1980. The New York Times described an update to the suit -- including Trump's testimony -- in 1998, and The Daily Beast wrote about the situation last summer. The case was settled in 1999.


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Anyway... there is no point in building a fence which is ever unguarded.
And there is absolutely no point in building a chain link fence.
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DWTripp wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
TheChin! wrote:
I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this


Not a real worry.

6' chainlink fence runs $35 a foot with professional installation.

Double that cost. Figure 2000 miles of border. Looking at chump change. 700 million and change. The Clinton Foundation could foot the bill.


fences are cheap. Even good tall ones. Just a casual read of some of the history of the cattle business in the American West (Texas up through Montana) will stagger you once you understand the scope of how much fence was actually installed, cheaply and efficiently, by wagon and sledge. The first ranch that was fenced in required 150 miles of barbed wire. 150 miles is the rough equivalent of a shit ton. And that ranch was just an experiment to see if the stuff worked. Which it did, just ask any Trenchfoot from WWI.

This is why, to me anyway, the idea that fencing off the border between America and Mexico being cast as too expensive or impractical is just dumb. It's cheap and fences work really, really good. Even big long ones. We can build that fence easy.


Clue: Cattle don't have spades to dig under fences. Or wirecutters. Or ladders. Or explosives.

Seen the Penn and Teller Bullshit where they employ some Mexicans to build a piece of fence to approved standards, then to go under, over and through it? OK, it's TV, it's exaggerated for effect. The point remains though, a fence only has any significant effect if patrolled.

WWI defences make a simple fence look trivial. And what really made them work was the machine guns backing them up.

Edit: Missed the followup that said it with photos.
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This is hilarious. Especially the bit where drug smugglers are driving full size trucks thru a tunnel under the fence.



National job database with biometric id. Huge fines and prison time for hiring illegals with well funded department of people posing as illegals seeking work. That will stop illegal immigration faster than any way.

But are americans willing to set up a national id card with biometric data? No.

Also, unless you legalize pot, the amount of money to justify border crossing is just too huge.

And probably cocaine too.
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It's always funny when countries that are accused of exporting people get pissy over immigration.

Until the recent MUSLIMS!!!! crisis the big immigration bugbear in the UK was EASTERN EUROPEANS!!!!!
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Drew1365 wrote:
maxo-texas wrote:
Huge fines and prison time for hiring illegals with well funded department of people posing as illegals seeking work. That will stop illegal immigration faster than any way.


But where will Chelsea get her nanny?

That won't be a problem as Trump will let her stay in the country.
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Mexican Six Pack



Another way to get six pack abs.

Nice to see they are trying to fit in as Americans.
 
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AndrewRogue wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
TheChin! wrote:
I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this


Not a real worry.

6' chainlink fence runs $35 a foot with professional installation.

Double that cost. Figure 2000 miles of border. Looking at chump change. 700 million and change. The Clinton Foundation could foot the bill.


Could do it for way less if you just hired some dudes from out in front of Home Depot.


Yeah but for some reason when You hire them they keep building revolving doors into the fence.
 
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Walls and the National Guard on the Mexican border. All problems solved with sneaking across the Rio Grande.

I like Hungary's stand for sovereignty.
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Is one fence slightly higher than the other with a path running down the middle?
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TheChin! wrote:
I'm not sure that Mexico can afford this


It is probably pretty pricey.



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