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Need to make a video shortly for a new game. This is an abstract game that requires 4/5 players in brief video to demo the play. Am finding it very difficult to find any good examples of multi-player video and hoping that some of you might know one or two I am unaware of. This is not a technical question and I am posting thread here because it seems my only chance of discovering if such videos even exist.

Can only search randomly in the video section of BGG because there are so many new entries being added daily it is impossible to view all of them. They are almost all one or two person videos. One good exception I did find is a video of new game UNFAIR which has a 4-player playthrough. While their are no faces shown in the video the hands-only with voice seems to work pretty good. https://www.boardgamegeek.com/video/109348/unfair/4-player-p...
However, it is over an hour long for full playthrough whereas I'm aiming for a few minutes only to briefly demo game in progress. It is not intended to provide full instructions which can be done elsewhere on website.

Even among the professional reviewers the only site I can think of off-hand that make good multi-player videos is Wil Wheatons Tabletop reviews. Unfortunately, self-starters on mini budgets can not aspire to that level of sophistication. With videos attached to almost every new game release now I really don't understand why multi-player games can't or don't have multiplayer demos ? Surely, some mult-player games have the opportunity to give viewers a better feel for the game rather than
monologue every time.....or am I missing some good reasons why it is rarely done ?
 
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The Game Night crew do playthroughs with 4 people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsYzyjmWceE


I am sure the reason you see more solo plays is because of cost. Tabletop and Game Night use multiple cameras and solo plays typically use one camera.
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Board Game Replay uses one camera https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYIoVaU55eFUmwgztqvuF2w but they also take a slightly different approach and don't show the whole game being played. The bulk of the video is the post game discussion w/ flashbacks to certain points during game play.

Cool Mini or Not has also done some single camera demos/play throughs https://www.youtube.com/user/coolminiornot/videos
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Thanks, forgot about Game Night...they do good work also.
But again, like Tabletop, this is very professional production
 
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Thanks, actually like simple approach of Cool Mini and not seen before
 
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You could get a couple good enough cameras (I mean get two cameras) for under $400:
https://amzn.com/B014X23ATS?tag=article-boardgamegeek-20.

Maybe check out Girls Game Shelf:
https://youtu.be/roTkkSLfPkU

The only way to get "ok" multiplayer footage of a live game with one camera is to possibly suspend the camera above the table.

You can also use smart phones for a second camera, since you probably already have one. The video quality might be different, but if you absolutely need that other angle captured simultaneously, it might be better than nothing.
https://youtu.be/7oRyg8h58gQ?t=1m54s

Of course, the last option is to just fake it all. Have the game scripted, and figure out what shots you want when, and either move the camera each time you need to focus on something, or play through the game several times with the camera in a different position, the way a movie production shoots the same scene multiple times from different angles. That's what I did for my latest demo video. Shot some wide angles, then faked the close ups, then did closeups of the players vocalizing their thought process for certain points in the game while keeping the board out of the shot.
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One of our playtesters has good expertise in video camera work and also has some kind of rail equipment where the camera can be suspended above the table as you suggest. No doubt he will have second camera available when we do the shoot. The tech side of it is beyond me but I will pass on your advice to him, thank you. Good luck with your game.

It still surprises me that most games which are multi-player only do not
have a multi-player demo. The cost of (amateur) video production has come
down dramatically in the last few years. One reason probably is that some
people are reluctant to expose themselves to ridicule on public video and
that is understandable. The video I referred to in initial post above
got around this problem by showing players hands only in their video.
 
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The may favorite game demos, without a doubt, come from Watch It Played. Most of the time, he plays 2 player with one of his kids, but there are plenty of examples of Rodney bringing both of his kids in to play 3 player. I believe that he did start with only one camera and just re-positioned it constantly. He also makes sure to cut out all the time he spends thinking about his move. I assume that for every minute of footage that he gets, there are several minutes of the players thinking and setting up video equipment to get the optimal shot.
 
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