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Apparently, in a move to quash those pesky "frivolous lawsuits," the Colorado Legislature previously passed a law saying the winner in a civil case can force the loser to pay their legal fees.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/02/four-victims-colorado-t...#

A law professor I knew told me that knowledge of the law tempered with mercy produces justice. The only thing this case produced is a fresh pile of steaming shit.
 
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As I do not see how the cinema was really liable I am not sure I have any sympathy with the "victims".

They were offered compensation and turned it down.
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Someone in the comments section on that article brought up a good point, the lawyers who told the victims to sue the Theater company should pay the costs.
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slatersteven wrote:
As I do not see how the cinema was really liable I am not sure I have any sympathy with the "victims".

They were offered compensation and turned it down.

Damn Slater, you just gave me a warm and fuzzy, especially since you refer to people who were shot multiple times as quote-victims-unquote.
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remorseless1 wrote:
Apparently, in a move to quash those pesky "frivolous lawsuits," the Colorado Legislature previously passed a law saying the winner in a civil case can force the loser to pay their legal fees.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/02/four-victims-colorado-t...#

A law professor I knew told me that knowledge of the law tempered with mercy produces justice. The only thing this case produced is a fresh pile of steaming shit.


So should Cinemark just be on the hook for their hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyer and legal fees by this frivolous lawsuit?

I have great empathy for these families losing their loved ones, but no empathy that they tried to make a buck off of it by suing the theater of all things.

AND they were offered a settlement, but turned it down because it wasn't enough.
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remorseless1 wrote:
Apparently, in a move to quash those pesky "frivolous lawsuits," the Colorado Legislature previously passed a law saying the winner in a civil case can force the loser to pay their legal fees.
It's called "loser pays" and it is actually the standard in most of the Western world's legal systems. It is indeed designed to cut down on frivolous lawsuits. But I agree these 4 victims received bad counseling from a hot-shot lawyer looking to make a name for himself on the backs of their misery.
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fightcitymayor wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Apparently, in a move to quash those pesky "frivolous lawsuits," the Colorado Legislature previously passed a law saying the winner in a civil case can force the loser to pay their legal fees.
It's called "loser pays" and it is actually the standard in most of the Western world's legal systems. It is indeed designed to cut down on frivolous lawsuits. But I agree these 4 victims received bad counseling from a hot-shot lawyer looking to make a name for himself on the backs of their misery.

In the UK if you are offered compensation and turn it down and still sue you are liable for costs. However this is a problem if the plaintiff wants an apology which is not offered because then it becomes about money. only.
 
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remorseless1 wrote:
Apparently, in a move to quash those pesky "frivolous lawsuits," the Colorado Legislature previously passed a law saying the winner in a civil case can force the loser to pay their legal fees.


While the visuals in this case look bad, this law is an awesome law. I wish every state did it.

If you sue someone and they are found not at fault, you "should" pay their legal bills.
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They probably would have won in Wisconsin. If you don't allow CCW on your property, you're liable if a nutter shoots it up.


Last I heard that law was merely a proposal from one legislator, and the Republican leader of the House has indicated it is not a priority. Indicating that not all folks think life is like a action film
 
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bjlillo wrote:
They probably would have won in Wisconsin. If you don't allow CCW on your property, you're liable if a nutter shoots it up.


Last I heard that law was merely a proposal from one legislator, and the Republican leader of the House has indicated it is not a priority. Indicating that not all folks think like is like a action film


50+ people armed in a darkened room during a crisis, what could possibly go wrong?
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Shadrach wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
They probably would have won in Wisconsin. If you don't allow CCW on your property, you're liable if a nutter shoots it up.


Last I heard that law was merely a proposal from one legislator, and the Republican leader of the House has indicated it is not a priority. Indicating that not all folks think like is like a action film


50+ people armed in a darkened room during a crisis, what could possibly go wrong?
Sop if a nuter opens up but I am shot by a CCW holder who is liable?
 
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fightcitymayor wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Apparently, in a move to quash those pesky "frivolous lawsuits," the Colorado Legislature previously passed a law saying the winner in a civil case can force the loser to pay their legal fees.
It's called "loser pays" and it is actually the standard in most of the Western world's legal systems. It is indeed designed to cut down on frivolous lawsuits. But I agree these 4 victims received bad counseling from a hot-shot lawyer looking to make a name for himself on the backs of their misery.

It's not standard in Oklahoma. And I would bet my last dollar that government court actions (criminal prosecutions and civil regulatory suits) are exempt from those types of laws. I have no problem with plaintiffs being allowed to counter-sue for expenses and legal fees; I have a huge problem with it being standard operating procedure. Besides, judges make good money and are supposed to be the ones who toss out frivolous lawsuits before they proceed. Sounds like we're just sticking it to poor people once again, and you people are applauding that.
 
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slatersteven wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
They probably would have won in Wisconsin. If you don't allow CCW on your property, you're liable if a nutter shoots it up.


Last I heard that law was merely a proposal from one legislator, and the Republican leader of the House has indicated it is not a priority. Indicating that not all folks think like is like a action film


50+ people armed in a darkened room during a crisis, what could possibly go wrong?
Sop if a nuter opens up but I am shot by a CCW holder who is liable?


The CCW holder.
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I have the perfect solution, we put these Theater Security Agency (TSA) guys into every theater and crank up movie prices with a $20 security processing fee, a 30 minute wait, be forced take of your shoes, X-ray scans of your bags, and no liquids larger than 2oz. There might even be some theft of your personal belongings and unnecessary frisking involved and if you speak up you might get sent to the side for extra inspections and extra delays.
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costguy wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
They probably would have won in Wisconsin. If you don't allow CCW on your property, you're liable if a nutter shoots it up.


Last I heard that law was merely a proposal from one legislator, and the Republican leader of the House has indicated it is not a priority. Indicating that not all folks think like is like a action film


50+ people armed in a darkened room during a crisis, what could possibly go wrong?
Sop if a nuter opens up but I am shot by a CCW holder who is liable?


The CCW holder.

That's comforting. At least I would get a nice funeral out of it.
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