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I saw something about the second edition has a new rule book. Has this version be electronically released?
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Re: New Rule Book
I'll be honest, when I saw the title of this thread, I got so excited.

Nope, not yet there's been limited information about the new edition, as of late.
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Re: New Rule Book
Please add question marks to thread titles like this. It's misleading.
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Fixed...though by the number of thumbs the two responses got shows the community's desire.
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aleuhe wrote:
Fixed...though by the number of thumbs the two responses got shows the community's desire.


Yea I agree
 
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I'll second that. The interest and desire to know if there are differences is most certainly there in my group.
 
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Paul Grogan recently announced on his podcast that he had finished the new rulebook and that it was off to print.

Also, interesting link showing new box and box art:

http://www.gtsdistribution.com/pc_product_detail.asp?key=A79...

(If the link doesn't work, use the search box to look for Robinson Crusoe)

Also, reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/4us6pq/new_edit...

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Will the new rulebook be comptabile with the old version?

I started to playing this game recently, but unfortunately it takes so much time that I can't play it everyday Would be nice to a have a revised rulebook when I don't remember something
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Archidelic wrote:
Will the new rulebook be comptabile with the old version?

Ignacy has said that the new rulebook will be compatible with the old version. One of the perks of the new version will be the over 450 edits to cards (from the original Portal version, not the Zman), etc to clarify the game.
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bat395 wrote:

Ignacy has said that the new rulebook will be compatible with the old version. One of the perks of the new version will be the over 450 edits to cards, etc to clarify the game.


This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Early buyers of games just get screwed. We are all better off to wait for the updated versions of games and rules before paying our hard earned money. Seems like most new games do this.
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lucky henry wrote:


This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Early buyers of games just get screwed. We are all better off to wait for the updated versions of games and rules before paying our hard earned money. Seems like most new games do this.


While I agree with your sentiment, if it wasn't for all you "Early buyers" game publishers wouldn't think there was a demand for updated versions.
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This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Early buyers of games just get screwed. We are all better off to wait for the updated versions of games and rules before paying our hard earned money. Seems like most new games do this.


While I agree with your sentiment, if it wasn't for all you "Early buyers" game publishers wouldn't think there was a demand for updated versions.


That's the problem. They sell what is, in effect, a beta version. Then they rely on their paying customers to do the proofreading and playtesting that should have been done before release!
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bat395 wrote:
[q="Archidelic"]Will the new rulebook be comptabile with the old version?

As a proof reader, I can confirm you that yes it definitely is, though there are minor changes here and there : as said some cards editing, scenario sheets clarified and also some small changes on the rules themselves on specific points but compatible for sure
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lucky henry wrote:
aleuhe wrote:
lucky henry wrote:


This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Early buyers of games just get screwed. We are all better off to wait for the updated versions of games and rules before paying our hard earned money. Seems like most new games do this.


While I agree with your sentiment, if it wasn't for all you "Early buyers" game publishers wouldn't think there was a demand for updated versions.


That's the problem. They sell what is, in effect, a beta version. Then they rely on their paying customers to do the proofreading and playtesting that should have been done before release!

You act like this was a Kickstarter game, and has only just been released. The original version was published 4 years ago and has been printed and reprinted many times in between by several different publishers in several languages. Yes, their English translation has flaws. No, that doesn't mean this game is a 'beta version'.
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We have different opinions, and that's OK.
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lucky henry wrote:
bat395 wrote:

Ignacy has said that the new rulebook will be compatible with the old version. One of the perks of the new version will be the over 450 edits to cards, etc to clarify the game.


This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Early buyers of games just get screwed. We are all better off to wait for the updated versions of games and rules before paying our hard earned money. Seems like most new games do this.


What the hell are you talking about? Existing Robinson Crusoe is a GREAT game. 4 years of experience out there by thousands of players allowed them to adjust some wording around.

It is a great game as it stands. And there's nothing that makes the game experience better in the new edition.

If you're worried about rules, then this will be made available to everyone online for free.
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I feel kinda bad, since I bought the game last month didn't know about this until yesterday when I asked about the rulebook.

So I am a little sad, but like people are saying, Robinson Cursoe is already a great game, you just have to spend some time looking at the FAQ and BGG foruns =P

Wish they could do a Conversion Kit for this.... but over than 450 edits to the cards? Is more easy to buy a new game X) If they could make it cheaper....

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Archidelic wrote:
I feel kinda bad, since I bought the game last month didn't know about this until yesterday when I asked about the rulebook.

So I am a little sad, but like people are saying, Robinson Cursoe is already a great game, you just have to spend some time looking at the FAQ and BGG foruns =P

Wish they could do a Conversion Kit for this.... but over than 450 edits to the cards? Is more easy to buy a new game X) If they could make it cheaper....



It's not that bad. I think a better rulebook will be more noticeable than the card tweaks. The worst wording was the rulebook's description of mystery card resolution, which is just totally erroneous in the Z man version. Most of the other problems involve ambiguities but you just need to decide whether to choose a more or less generous interpretation. You get a good feel for this after a few plays. But another major complaint is that the game is fiddly with all the decks and tokens, and there's no indication that will change with the new version.
 
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lucky henry wrote:
bat395 wrote:

Ignacy has said that the new rulebook will be compatible with the old version. One of the perks of the new version will be the over 450 edits to cards, etc to clarify the game.


This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Early buyers of games just get screwed. We are all better off to wait for the updated versions of games and rules before paying our hard earned money. Seems like most new games do this.


What the hell are you talking about? Existing Robinson Crusoe is a GREAT game. 4 years of experience out there by thousands of players allowed them to adjust some wording around.

It is a great game as it stands. And there's nothing that makes the game experience better in the new edition.

If you're worried about rules, then this will be made available to everyone online for free.


A new rule book plus more than 450 edits to the cards, yet you say that there's nothing that makes the game experience better. Right. <snort>
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lucky henry wrote:
Slashdoctor wrote:
lucky henry wrote:
bat395 wrote:

Ignacy has said that the new rulebook will be compatible with the old version. One of the perks of the new version will be the over 450 edits to cards, etc to clarify the game.


This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Early buyers of games just get screwed. We are all better off to wait for the updated versions of games and rules before paying our hard earned money. Seems like most new games do this.


What the hell are you talking about? Existing Robinson Crusoe is a GREAT game. 4 years of experience out there by thousands of players allowed them to adjust some wording around.

It is a great game as it stands. And there's nothing that makes the game experience better in the new edition.

If you're worried about rules, then this will be made available to everyone online for free.


A new rule book plus more than 450 edits to the cards, yet you say that there's nothing that makes the game experience better. Right. <snort>


you know what, a reissue with a newly translated rulebook and text adjustments is supposed to make the game better to play so "snort" yourself, I'm glad they have done it. I'm sorry if you feel you got ripped off but 4 years is more than enough time between editions. Perhaps you might let us know what is your minimum length of allowable time before releasing a new edition. Or would you prefer nothing ever changes, ever?*

*It's not even a new edition in the sense of many 2nd Editions featuring rules revamps or mechanics changes. It's simply rules clarifications that were clearly necessary as evidenced by the number of forum questions and FAQ's available on bgg. It's purely "better to play" because there's less downtime puzzling over interpretation of the rules or looking up supplementary guides.
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The snort is because he said there was nothing that makes the game better, yet clearly there would be.
 
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bat395 wrote:
Archidelic wrote:
Will the new rulebook be comptabile with the old version?

Ignacy has said that the new rulebook will be compatible with the old version. One of the perks of the new version will be the over 450 edits to cards, etc to clarify the game.


The real question is, will the new cards be available for purchase for s "early adopter"?
 
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neoOberon wrote:
bat395 wrote:
Archidelic wrote:
Will the new rulebook be comptabile with the old version?

Ignacy has said that the new rulebook will be compatible with the old version. One of the perks of the new version will be the over 450 edits to cards, etc to clarify the game.


The real question is, will the new cards be available for purchase for s "early adopter"?


Given that probably means replacing all of the cards in the game, i don't think that would be cheap. It looks like there are also some board changes and component upgrades. If you like the game enough it seems like you may as well go the whole hog and upgrade everything.
 
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I'm just thinking that if publishers released a game and then never did anything to improve it, these releases could never be considered betas. But I don't think that is really in anyone's best interests.
 
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