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Nico
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But I don’t want to go among mad people
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Maybe this is the reason many people stopped playing magic and switched to other card games (LCGs for example) or board games.
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I think Magic works as long as you have a friend who plays with you and is willing to spend nearly the same amount of money as you do. Not more and not less otherwise the decks can't compete.
I never liked tournament Magic. Today you just have a look at the internet for deck lists and then buy the cards you need online. soblue
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You must differentiate between casual players and tournament players. For many tournament players, this is the only game they play. It's their one lifestyle game. And if you spend countless hours with a set, you're ready for a new one every three or four months.

Casual players don't need to get all the cards, so it doesn't concern them as much.
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It all depends on what you want out of the game.

If you want to be competitive and a tournament player you will spend some serious $$. Keep in mind not only in cards but traveling to events if you want to be super competitive.

Now if you want to enjoy the game as a casual player? I recommend some FNM (Friday Night Magic) at your FLGS. Limited formats are harder but you just show up buy entry and are given product to build a deck with for the night. Then you keep the cards and add to your collection.

Play with local friends but be sure you all have an understanding on the power level of decks you are going to use. It isn't a whole lot of fun if someone has super power deck and you have a few cards you got from FNM and possibly a pre-release. Oh yea did I mention go to the Pre-Release! They are a blast and a fun way to get some new cads.

Here you have to realize that if you are a completist you will spend some money. If you just like playing with what you have you can play for less.

In full disclosure I have been playing since 1994 and have gone though the phases of competitive and casual. Right now I enjoy casual game play and can also enjoy all these other wonderful board games as well!

Enjoy the game as it is a LOT of fun but be sure to find the balance that works with you.
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The good part is that you don't have to keep up if you don'T plan to play competitively.

I would argue, that all casual decks from the last 15 years play nicely against each other.
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Easy for me. I play casually with the wife just by buying a few premade starter decks every once in a while.
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I think a lot of people also just drift in and out as sets appeal to them.....

Me? I drifted out years ago and never came back due to the advent of the FAR superior LCG model
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I only play non-rotating and limited formats now. So, EDH, sealed, draft, and cube are it for me. I buy a total of maybe 15-20 cards a year. No boosters (except during limited), only singles. I'm toying with investing in a modern deck (I'd do legacy, but that's beyond my price range), but if I do, that's another non-rotating deck that I'll only buy a couple cards for a year.

There is more stress if you play standard, which is the most popular format (along with, arguably, casual). I played standard for a few years, and that did occupy a lot of my time and budget. It's exciting and interesting if the format is healthy, but prohibitively expensive and stressful in the long run.

We're board gamers, so we're used to paying a lot of money for one game. Paying the same amount of money (or maybe double that) or a single non-rotating deck isn't that absurd. It's just trendy to look down on CCG players from our cardboard throne built on a wooden cube pedestal.
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Cube, for the best of all worlds.

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Eldritch Moon Came out July 22nd. Kaladesh Launches Oct 30th. That's almost 3 full months, and a typical pace for magic sets. Like most companies they are touting their newest products in advance of the release date to generate hype/interest.

As someone who does participate in tournament magic I don't find that pace too stressful to keep up with. It's actually somewhat a relief to see a new set come out and shake up the tried and true of our weekly events.

Keep in mind that while a large set might be 200 or so cards, probably less than 10% of those cards will ever see constructed tournament play.

So what do players do? They trade or sell the cards they don't want or are uninterested in for the cards that they do want or are interested in.

There's a reliable and consistent market for singles.
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I have started buying a single "fat pack" when each new set comes out.

My daughter and I each open 5 booster packs, make the best 40-card deck we can in 20 minutes, then have a best 2:3 match.

After that, we trade, rebuild our decks, and have fun with it until the next set.

Great way to enjoy the game and not go broke!
 
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That's pretty close to what people do at prerelease events. Each player is given a kit with six booster packs plus one bonus foil promo rare or mythic, and they build a 40 card deck with which to play in that day's tournament.

Organized sealed play is the same, without the bonus foil promo.
 
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I just jumped back in for Hour of Devastation by buying a box of boosters, open and sort, then build. I began playing during The Dark release and on and off through somewhere around Lorwyn. NOt much after that.

When I re-entered, the booster box seemed the way to go to get a good amount of cards, some complete 4x sets, and enough decent rares to make it worth it.

It's basically a different game for me now.
 
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I started playing a bit before Fallen Empires. I played competitively for a few years. My highlights were winning a Mox Emerald in a 1.5 tournament and winning a PT Qualifier (unfortunately, I couldn't afford to travel to the actual PT). I quit playing mid-Urza's Saga, which was IMHO when WotC stopped trying to make a balanced game and started milking the CCG model for all it was worth. IIRC, foils became a thing around this time frame and ultra-rares followed soon after. I just couldn't stomach it anymore.

I loved MtG. The tournament environment was a blast for me. I enjoyed trading as well. I would still be playing if it weren't for the business model and the extreme time commitment required to keep up. Just stopped being worth it. So there's that.
 
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I started playing a bit before Fallen Empires. I played competitively for a few years. My highlights were winning a Mox Emerald in a 1.5 tournament and winning a PT Qualifier (unfortunately, I couldn't afford to travel to the actual PT). I quit playing mid-Urza's Saga, which was IMHO when WotC stopped trying to make a balanced game and started milking the CCG model for all it was worth. IIRC, foils became a thing around this time frame and ultra-rares followed soon after. I just couldn't stomach it anymore.

I loved MtG. The tournament environment was a blast for me. I enjoyed trading as well. I would still be playing if it weren't for the business model and the extreme time commitment required to keep up. Just stopped being worth it. So there's that.


I feel your pain ... which is exactly why I play for fun now.

Getting wrapped up in the MtG 'business model' and time commitment to compete 'professionally' is a waste of energy, IMO.

I don't think it's really that much different than running out every time there is a new expansion to Dominion. The primary difference being MtG is actually fun.
 
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I keep up with one Modern deck. Just spent almost one year without playing, spent $3,50 to update the deck and had fun losing my win and in into top 8 in a local tournament.

This game is great.
 
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You don't need four of as many cards as you can get. You need the correct number of cards to play how you want to play.

Want to play standard? You need to own at least 75 cards, but you could play standard competitively and never own more than 100 cards at a time if you really wanted to. (You probably need a few sideboard options you can adjust based on the meta of the tournaments you play.) The cards you own might need to change every few months, but you can sell off the old as you buy the new. If you're lucky and the deck you were playing is still decent, you might just need to sell off a subset of the cards and buy a new subset.

Want to just draft? You need to pay for the draft each time you play (usually $12) and then you could sell off anything decent you get (let's be conservative and say you get nothing good). That's no more expensive than going to a movie each week.

Want to play an eternal dual format? Shell out a big pile of money up front to buy the deck you want, but then you only have to buy maybe 1-4 cards a year.

Want to play commander? Buy a $35 deck and then buy cards only when you feel like it to customize it.
 
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Hmph! "Modern-Day Robin Hood." What am I supposed to do? Steal from myself and give to the poor?
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My friends and I only play EDH now. I have about a dozen decks and when a new set comes out, I pick out he cards that work with the decks I have and just buy those. I also have a pretty extensive collection. My friends are the same way.
 
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