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A kinder gentler form of Jim Crow.
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Who the hell thinks this will make relations better?
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While these housing options are technically open to all students, they’re billed and used as arrangements in which black students can live with one another.

I'm confused about whether your headline was true or not.
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bjlillo wrote:
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While these housing options are technically open to all students, they’re billed and used as arrangements in which black students can live with one another.

I'm confused about whether your headline was true or not.


Where did you get that quote from?

The article your Washington Times article links. It's called fact checking.
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damiangerous wrote:
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Where did you get that quote from?

The article your Washington Times article links.

Yes, this ("Your daily dose of right-minded news and commentary..."). The previous sentence has links to three other schools "offering segregated housing dedicated to black students"; the only one I clicked on was UC Davis, which explicitly encourages students of all cultures to join its "African & African American" living-learning community.

What have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?
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bjlillo wrote:
From the "We Demand" section of the Black Student Union letter:

So? They can "demand" whatever they want. Since segregated housing is illegal, what they get is simply housing advertised as "the black housing" for people who want to do that for whatever reason.
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bjlillo wrote:
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What have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?

From the "We Demand" section of the Black Student Union letter:

Sure, students demand dipshitty things all the time, because they're dipshits. Your article wasn't "students are dipshits," though; it was that a state university was going to offer "blacks only segregated housing." That article uses as its source an article that acknowledges that the housing isn't segregated, and uses as its source college web pages which say the housing isn't segregated. So... again, what have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?
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bjlillo wrote:
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Where did you get that quote from?

The article your Washington Times article links.

Yes, this ("Your daily dose of right-minded news and commentary..."). The previous sentence has links to three other schools "offering segregated housing dedicated to black students"; the only one I clicked on was UC Davis, which explicitly encourages students of all cultures to join its "African & African American" living-learning community.

What have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?


From the "We Demand" section of the Black Student Union letter:

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WE DEMAND the creation and financial support of a CSLA housing space delegated for Black students and a full time Resident Director who can cater to the needs of Black students. Many Black CSLA students cannot afford to live in Alhambra or the surrounding area with the high prices of rent. A CSLA housing space delegated for Black students would provide a cheaper alternative housing solution for Black students. This space would also serve as a safe space for Black CSLA students to congregate, connect, and learn from each other.



Wait a minute... are they saying that black-only housing would lower property values? THAT'S RACIST!!!
 
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Well, people do complain that college doesn't do enough to prepare you for the real world. Segregated neighborhoods are real!
 
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bjlillo wrote:
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So... again, what have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?

So if a builder advertised a cul-de-sac as being for whites only, slapped a KKK theme on it, and had a regularly scheduled cross burning, you'd assume that it must be an open environment that would welcome all comers? Don't be silly.

Got it. My next question is whether you knew the article was deliberately misleading, or whether you were just misled by it.
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bjlillo wrote:
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My next question is whether you knew the article was deliberately misleading, or whether you were just misled by it.

Got it, so you think something advertised as just for blacks with a black theme from a public university in response to a demand from a black student union demanding a space free from white aggressions is not really segregated. Fascinating.

The source article falsely described the UC Davis housing as segregated. You have any evidence which makes you believe the same claim about the CSU LA housing? A link to the advertising? A link to anything from the university?

Also, check your GeekMail for serious social issues.
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The speculation I saw elsewhere is that this is really being driven by poor students not being able to afford to live in the surrounding area, a link between poor and black, and needing more affordable housing.
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kuhrusty wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
My next question is whether you knew the article was deliberately misleading, or whether you were just misled by it.

Got it, so you think something advertised as just for blacks with a black theme from a public university in response to a demand from a black student union demanding a space free from white aggressions is not really segregated. Fascinating.

The source article falsely described the UC Davis housing as segregated. You have any evidence which makes you believe the same claim about the CSU LA housing? A link to the advertising? A link to anything from the university?

Also, check your GeekMail for serious social issues.


I can't find a non-Breitbart like source. It's a conservative media feeding frenzy at the moment.
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bjlillo wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
What have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?

From the "We Demand" section of the Black Student Union letter:

Sure, students demand dipshitty things all the time, because they're dipshits. Your article wasn't "students are dipshits," though; it was that a state university was going to offer "blacks only segregated housing." That article uses as its source an article that acknowledges that the housing isn't segregated, and uses as its source college web pages which say the housing isn't segregated. So... again, what have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?


So if a builder advertised a cul-de-sac as being for whites only, slapped a KKK theme on it, and had a regularly scheduled cross burning, you'd assume that it must be an open environment that would welcome all comers? Don't be silly.

Legally? Yes. Attitude wise? Clearly not. But I'm demonstrably not as gullible as you.
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damiangerous wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
What have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?

From the "We Demand" section of the Black Student Union letter:

Sure, students demand dipshitty things all the time, because they're dipshits. Your article wasn't "students are dipshits," though; it was that a state university was going to offer "blacks only segregated housing." That article uses as its source an article that acknowledges that the housing isn't segregated, and uses as its source college web pages which say the housing isn't segregated. So... again, what have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?


So if a builder advertised a cul-de-sac as being for whites only, slapped a KKK theme on it, and had a regularly scheduled cross burning, you'd assume that it must be an open environment that would welcome all comers? Don't be silly.

Legally? Yes. Attitude wise? Clearly not. But I'm demonstrably not as gullible as you.


Whether their request is legal or not, whether it gets implemented or not, the issue is that the youth of today are trying to regress to self-segregation as a way to keep their feelings from being hurt. There were people who sacrificed, who bled and died, so these kids could have the privilege of going to a university like this. And these kids want to use that privilege to have the least-integrated experience possible. Whatever becomes of these demands pales in comparison to the fact that the youth of today think demands like these are some form of social consciousness.
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GameCrossing wrote:
damiangerous wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
What have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?

From the "We Demand" section of the Black Student Union letter:

Sure, students demand dipshitty things all the time, because they're dipshits. Your article wasn't "students are dipshits," though; it was that a state university was going to offer "blacks only segregated housing." That article uses as its source an article that acknowledges that the housing isn't segregated, and uses as its source college web pages which say the housing isn't segregated. So... again, what have you seen that makes you think this story isn't deliberately misleading?


So if a builder advertised a cul-de-sac as being for whites only, slapped a KKK theme on it, and had a regularly scheduled cross burning, you'd assume that it must be an open environment that would welcome all comers? Don't be silly.

Legally? Yes. Attitude wise? Clearly not. But I'm demonstrably not as gullible as you.


Whether their request is legal or not, whether it gets implemented or not, the issue is that the youth of today are trying to regress to self-segregation as a way to keep their feelings from being hurt. There were people who sacrificed, who bled and died, so these kids could have the privilege of going to a university like this. And these kids want to use that privilege to have the least-integrated experience possible. Whatever becomes of these demands pales in comparison to the fact that the youth of today think demands like these are some form of social consciousness.

I'm very skeptical of any claim with "the youth of today" in it. And frankly, if we want to talk about if this is a good idea or not it might be helpful to have some black people involved in the discussion. I mean, on the surface it sounds like a pretty bad idea, sure. But without being able to talk to some black people who are in favor of this we'd just be spinning our wheels here. I can think of some situations that may or not be analogous enough to be helpful, like foreigners staying in the US, that give me some sympathy to their position.

Mostly this thread is now just a referendum on whether BJ is being dishonest or gullible.


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GameCrossing wrote:
And these kids want to use that privilege to have the least-integrated experience possible.

Do you feel the same about Mormons attending BYU?
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damiangerous wrote:
Mostly this thread is now just a referendum on whether BJ is being dishonest or gullible.

don't sell him short, he could be both!
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jmilum wrote:
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And these kids want to use that privilege to have the least-integrated experience possible.

Do you feel the same about Mormons attending BYU?


There hasn't exactly been a major civil rights movement to integrate Mormons into general society.
 
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GameCrossing wrote:
jmilum wrote:
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And these kids want to use that privilege to have the least-integrated experience possible.

Do you feel the same about Mormons attending BYU?


There hasn't exactly been a major civil rights movement to integrate Mormons into general society.


Then what was that musical all about?
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GameCrossing wrote:
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And these kids want to use that privilege to have the least-integrated experience possible.

Do you feel the same about Mormons attending BYU?


There hasn't exactly been a major civil rights movement to integrate Mormons into general society.


Nobody wants them.
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I'm just trying to mentally picture a college dorm populated by the university's population of Mormons, Scientologists, and hard-core Evangelicals.
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Self-segregating - is that like self-deporting?
 
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Whenever I read a post by a whitebred trying to point out some perceived hypocrisy about racism, this just screams racist that can't admit they are a racist.

The 1A of this proof is that they either highlight the fact that:

1. Have spent time around minorities (not whitebreds) either via extensive travel or activities or work.

2. Have friends that aren't whitebreds or know of someone that isn't a whitebred.
 
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