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Ok, I own a BUNCH of games. Of that bunch I've played maybe 20-30%. I bought them all with the express purpose of playing them, but at least 50% are still in shrink. Why?

For me, time is the biggest factor in the games not making the table - work, chores, and sometimes plain fatigue cut down on the number of hours I have free. Even games where I already know the rules aren't getting to the table often, those where I need to learn..well let's just say I haven't been reading much either.

Another is setup: time and a space to leave the game once started (I'm primarily a solo player) - having cats means a secure room which, unfortunately, I do not have. Yes, Vassal..I had arranged to learn a new game with a fellow BGGer but then the time thing happened, in that case to learn the rules.

Finally I'd have to say "rules paralysis" - I set a new game and then...what do I do? What was that rule again? Do I do it this way? Not knowing how to proceed has resulted in many a setup game being "demobilized".

I do have a plan - retire and PLAY MY GUTS OUT but that day (unless I get better at picking 6 or 7 of 49 numbers) is still about 7 years away...

Unfortunately I'd have to say that presently I'm simply a collector (sigh).

So what keeps you from playing, and those who do play, what's your secret?
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Work, friends, and family. I never seem to get as much time as I'd like--there are weeks on end where I don't even touch a game, but crave them through a few minutes here and there on CONSIMWORLD and BGG....

Sigh.
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I have no excuses -- have the time and should be playing more but either I am not in the mood, lack a partner, rules paralysis after set-up, or something else interferes. I love gaming; it's my #1 hobby. I mainly play solo, and have acquired many (perhaps too many to keep up with) new and interesting games over the past 3 years. I have actually played more games during those 3 years than during any other time in my life, so I should be satisfied but I am not because I still have many unplayed games on the shelf. I have significally cut down on the acquistion of new games recently and have been consentrating on playing the unplayed ones.
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Designing. (also time, fatigue, lack of partners, but mostly this)

I'm always working on the next thing, and whatever playing I do get done is mostly preliminary testing of my own work to see if the engine turns over.
I have a large and growing collection, of old and new items, but it's become almost a reference library.

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Nothing. I play several days a week every week.
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Nothing keeps me from playing... But many things keep me from playing as much as I might want.
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Work fatigue, schedule, and to be honest, I've sort of lost the mojo lately.
I've had a couple of game setup that never went anywhere and I just eventually gave up and packed them back away (one day I will finish this dang'on War Galley scenario I have setup!...it resides safely under my bed for now.)

I guess the urge to get my game on may be lessened by the summer weather and related activities (nobody can blame me for not bringing Maria on my vacation to Puerto Rico......ok maybe the hardcore among you can).

It's odd. I -want- to play some games...but as I start my brain just clouds up and I can't get anywhere. Does this mean I need a fresh new game to get my attention? (of course it does) Or maybe I just need a break...absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that.

Sorry to pontificate a bit but I guess if there is any group of people who would understand it's y'all!
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For me at the moment the biggest factor is probably map size. I live in a 9m2 apartment (that's not a typo - Paris is expensive!) so there is clearly not a lot of room for gaming and even less to have one set up to come back to. All the larger games are kept in the country house which I occasionally get out to to play.

The good thing is though, I've discovered lots of great mini sized games. I have Nieuport 1600 (from Vae Victis) set up at the moment and it's actually an interesting little game I might not have otherwise discovered that uses rules derived from Ben Hall's Musket and Pike series.
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Time (Lack of).

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For me at the moment the biggest factor is probably map size. I live in a 9m2 apartment (that's not a typo - Paris is expensive!) so there is clearly not a lot of room for gaming and even less to have one set up to come back to.

Try this:

Ace of Aces: Handy Rotary Series

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Lack of people to play against. Most folks play the lighter games at weekly game meet ups. Most boardgamers think an hour is to long for a game to take. So finding an opponent for a game of Unhappy King Charles! is near impossible. For a game of Britannia where you need 4 players it IS impossible.
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As far as getting friends involved, I'm going to try either Sails of Glory, Wings of Glory: WW2 Starter Set, Wings of Glory: WW1 Duel Pack, or Star Trek: Attack Wing. Maybe if I can get them interested in miniatures I can eventually hook them on "cardboard chits"... (That's my plan anyway devil )
 
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Time (Lack of).

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AND a 4th "Brain" since the 'Cat-tail'-one is BEST at "Tiddlywinks", "Crokinole", or "Marbles" whilst yet naught another! shake
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I have found wargamers to be as rare as hen's teeth, and ones I want to spend my free time with, rarer still.

I'm at the point where I am dumping every game I don't enjoy enough to play solitaire (and I'm not a big solitaire wargame player - tend to enjoy computer games more, or co-op games like Arkham Horror, Elder Sign, or Space Cadets Away Missions). Have sold over 200 wargames, the majority, plus virtually all my RPG and minis stuff, and am slowly trying to work my way through the unplayed wargames to see which few are worthy of being kept. I am using the "Does it give you joy" clutter reduction method. Most wargames, as it turns out, don't. Frankly that was true even in times when I did have opponents. In retrospect, I bought more out of hope than out of fond memories. My best face to face gaming times tended to come from games like Dune and Advanced Civilization, not wargames.

The only non-solitairable wargames I plan to keep are EastFront, Rommel in the Desert and Commands & Colors: Ancients due to their high playability, on the off chance I do find a decent opponent someday.
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mrbeankc wrote:
Lack of people to play against.


Same here. There's only one wargamer (that I'm aware of) in my immediate locality, and he's one of those oddball people who refuses to play anything other than one very specific game (an old AH classic). We get together very occasionally to play, but between his personal quirks (which are minor, but still extant) and the fact that it's not a game I'm particularly interested in, our sessions aren't frequent.

I've tried a couple of different electronic assist programs (VASSAL and SunTsu), but between my crappy internet connection and my lack of familiarity with the the programs, I spend more time trying to figure out how to make the programs work than actually playing the game. I suppose with more familiarity it would be better, but I'm not sure I have the patience to invest the time necessary to get to that state.
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Mallet wrote:
Time (Lack of).

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AND a 4th "Brain" since the 'Cat-tail'-one is BEST at "Tiddlywinks", "Crokinole", or "Marbles" whilst yet naught another! shake


Translation ?

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Mallet wrote:
GROGnads wrote:
Mallet wrote:
Time (Lack of).

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AND a 4th "Brain" since the 'Cat-tail'-one is BEST at "Tiddlywinks", "Crokinole", or "Marbles" whilst yet naught another! shake


Translation ?



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My barrier to more wargame play is that horrible 9 hours a day I endure that allows me to have things like food and a home.

I often contemplate whether the entire construct of work is a vestigial limb of times past where work was necessary to provide enough food and services for a village.

I highly suspect the majority of people in the first world work in jobs that aren't particularly necessary, and the only reason the jobs haven't been automated to a higher degree is so people have a way to obtain money.

I tip my hat to the lucky few who enjoy what they do. Unfortunately for me, I've traveled too far down the path I chose to effectively turn back. It's pretty amazing how much age discrimination I've witnessed as I hit 40. I cannot image how bad it would be trying to change careers now and be that 40 something without experience.
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Finally I'd have to say "rules paralysis" - I set a new game and then...what do I do? What was that rule again? Do I do it this way? Not knowing how to proceed has resulted in many a setup game being "demobilized".


I find this to be one of the biggest problems to play more, but I find you just have to push through and push the cardboard around! Once you've done read the rules again and they make more sense and you can make much better progress.
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I'm not really sure. I don't have a lot of wargames and my most recent purchase was the solitaire game Don't Tread on Me. I set it up and then seem to get frozen with a rule I'm not quite sure about and wind up tearing it down and putting it away to try again later. I have cats, toowhistle
I have Ogre DE which I've played more often because I was already familiar with it. {I'm 67} Still have my original second printing and GEV also.
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My barrier to more wargame play is that horrible 9 hours a day I endure that allows me to have things like food and a home.

I often contemplate whether the entire construct of work is a vestigial limb of times past where work was necessary to provide enough food and services for a village.

I highly suspect the majority of people in the first world work in jobs that aren't particularly necessary, and the only reason the jobs haven't been automated to a higher degree is so people have a way to obtain money.

I tip my hat to the lucky few who enjoy what they do. Unfortunately for me, I've traveled too far down the path I chose to effectively turn back. It's pretty amazing how much age discrimination I've witnessed as I hit 40. I cannot image how bad it would be trying to change careers now and be that 40 something without experience.


Time, likewise. I average 10 hours/day in the office, 75 minute commute each way. Occasional late hours get added to this (this week, Tuesday 7:15 am to 1:00 am, Thursday 9:15 am to 10:30 pm.)

I don't want to work these hours but I don't have enough to retire, and I consider myself quite fortunate to have any job at all, much less one that pays well and with health care.

Being well past 40, my strategy for remaining employed is to stay active in the technical community, and practice continual self-education (leaving even less time for play). One of the "leading lights" of my community suggests spending ~20 hours/week on self-education, I can usually get in 10-12 hours.


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smic wrote:
Mallet wrote:
GROGnads wrote:
Mallet wrote:
Time (Lack of).

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AND a 4th "Brain" since the 'Cat-tail'-one is BEST at "Tiddlywinks", "Crokinole", or "Marbles" whilst yet naught another! shake


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Rug-rats


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Being well past 40, my strategy for remaining employed is to stay active in the technical community, and practice continual self-education (leaving even less time for play). One of the "leading lights" of my community suggests spending ~20 hours/week on self-education, I can usually get in 10-12 hours.


Beware of following workaholics. One of my coworkers worked himself right into the grave (in his 40's).
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