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What did they call clockwise before there were clocks?

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And how about counterclockwise (US) or anticlockwise (UK)? (Of course, the US only existed after clocks--and, well, also the UK, but England and English were around.)

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Can anyone think of some other examples?
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"Sundial Shadow"

Before we had the Sun? laugh
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Accoustic guitars were just guitars before Chuck Berry.

Boardgames were games before Pong.

Yes. I'm probably ruining the fun but: Retronym I believe is the term. New terms for old items when a newer invention assumes the old name. Lots of examples if you google it.

Edit: Great War, World War I.
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What did they call BC before there was AD?
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ekted wrote:
What did they call BC before there was AD?


Now?
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Csigs wrote:
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What did they call BC before there was AD?


Now?


Before Clinton, after Donald?

The Reagan years.
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Accoustic guitars were just guitars before Chuck Berry.

Boardgames were games before Pong.

Yes. I'm probably ruining the fun but: Retronym I believe is the term. New terms for old items when a newer invention assumes the old name. Lots of examples if you google it.

Edit: Great War, World War I.

That's kind of a different thing, and retronyms, they are. Boardgame dates to 1889; they are distinct from dice games or card games. The question would be, what were boardgames called if they existed before boards were invented? But, I don't think they did.
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You're probably right. There may be a whole interesting thing on "game" being the term for the most popular game of the era, from gambling being the default definition, to cards, to board games, to video games.
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ekted wrote:
What did they call BC before there was AD?

Probably, "The nth year of King ____." In Japan, the years of Hirohito were called Shōwa ___, December 25, 1926, through January 7, 1989. The Heisei era started on January 8, 1989. (Japan, though, sensibly puts the year first, like 1989 01 08, so dates can be sorted easily.)

No, I'm wrong: Anno Mundi, "The year of the world," AM. Of course before the Christian calendar was created, the Hebrew calendar was used. "AM 5776 began at sunset on 13 September 2015" so pretty soon it'll be AM 5777, on September 14th.
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Koldfoot wrote:
Accoustic guitars were just guitars before Chuck Berry.

Boardgames were games before Pong.

Yes. I'm probably ruining the fun but: Retronym I believe is the term. New terms for old items when a newer invention assumes the old name. Lots of examples if you google it.

Edit: Great War, World War I.



There are references to the first world war from before the second. It was the first global conflict recognised as such so it wasn't always just "the great war" before the second came along.
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Koldfoot wrote:
Accoustic guitars were just guitars before Chuck Berry.

Boardgames were games before Pong.

Yes. I'm probably ruining the fun but: Retronym I believe is the term. New terms for old items when a newer invention assumes the old name. Lots of examples if you google it.

Edit: Great War, World War I.



There are references to the first world war from before the second. It was the first global conflict recognised as such so it wasn't always just "the great war" before the second came along.


You could be right, but I don't think so. WWII and WWI were adopted very early in the 2nd conflict, though.

Remember it started for us in 1941. It started for others years earlier.
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What did they call BC before there was AD?


Now?

So they had year 5 "now," then year 4 "now," then year 3...I wonder if anybody figured out that an important time was coming soon.

I wonder what they called the mickey mouse plant before Steamboat Willie?
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What did they call horseshoe crabs before people decided to nail metal to hooves?
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Koldfoot wrote:
casualcasual wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
Accoustic guitars were just guitars before Chuck Berry.

Boardgames were games before Pong.

Yes. I'm probably ruining the fun but: Retronym I believe is the term. New terms for old items when a newer invention assumes the old name. Lots of examples if you google it.

Edit: Great War, World War I.



There are references to the first world war from before the second. It was the first global conflict recognised as such so it wasn't always just "the great war" before the second came along.


You could be right, but I don't think so. WWII and WWI were adopted very early in the 2nd conflict, though.

Remember it started for us in 1941. It started for others years earlier.


"World War" dates to 1914 (Pittsburgh Press and various other newspappers) but the "One" was not added until the 1920s. "World War II" dates from 1919, this time from a speculative article in the Manchester Guardian. Churchill used "World War" in The World Crisis (1927).

The phrases you don't see or hear any more are "The War of Nations" (quite common during WW1) and "The Survival War" (frequently used by FDR to name WW2).



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jbrecken wrote:
What did they call horseshoe crabs before people decided to nail metal to hooves?
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Not yet!
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What did they call horseshoe crabs before people decided to nail metal to hooves?

A lot of animal names fall into this category:- barn owl, spectacled bear, andrex puppy, iPhone-imitating ear-eater, etc.

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What "Horseshoe Crab"-'blacksmith' WERE there of anyone 'remains'?
 
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What did they call hipsters before there were cool?


I don't know about anybody else, but for me, it's the same word i use now.
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Koldfoot wrote:
Accoustic guitars were just guitars before Chuck Berry.

Boardgames were games before Pong.

Yes. I'm probably ruining the fun but: Retronym I believe is the term. New terms for old items when a newer invention assumes the old name. Lots of examples if you google it.

Edit: Great War, World War I.



There are references to the first world war from before the second. It was the first global conflict recognised as such so it wasn't always just "the great war" before the second came along.


You could be right, but I don't think so. WWII and WWI were adopted very early in the 2nd conflict, though.

Remember it started for us in 1941. It started for others years earlier.


"World War" dates to 1914 (Pittsburgh Press and various other newspappers) but the "One" was not added until the 1920s. "World War II" dates from 1919, this time from a speculative article in the Manchester Guardian. Churchill used "World War" in The World Crisis (1927).

The phrases you don't see or hear any more are "The War of Nations" (quite common during WW1) and "The Survival War" (frequently used by FDR to name WW2).





What about "first world war"?
 
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