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Between Wall Street, the big banks, and crap like this, I'd say we need more constrains on capitalism, not fewer.
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The generalized argument for a lot of stuff like this is that in a true free market society this would either self-correct or have not happened, and that it is the result of our bastardized system and various forms of legal protectionism.

(Terminology is not correct since I'm abridging my alreadynot totally in-depth knowledge.)

YMMV, obviously.
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Shampoo4you wrote:
I'd say we need more constrains on capitalism, not fewer.


You could always move to one of the nations that have the level of regulation you like. North Korea perhaps ?

Regulation is the enemy of freedom.
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This is news? There have been documentaries done on Luxotica in the past and there aren't any real secrets here. Plus, what kind of moron pays $400 for a pair of glasses? I have two pair that are for back-up and they cost $65 for both. Then I have a nice pair of Ray-bans with those high tech lenses that darken and get light dependent on sunlight. Ray-Bans, high tech plastic shape-shifting = $210 total.

The problem isn't "regulation" it's over regulation. Regulation up to a point is fine, like needing a certificate from the Health department to operate a restaurant or other benign but helpful forms of government doing a service. Luxotica is also not an American company so I'd imagine you couldn't regulate them anyway. Hell Apple is damn near a monopoly it controls over half the smart phone smart watch and tablet market (or did) and there is still healthy competition.

Who the fuck pays over $400 for a pair of glasses? Hillary maybe, or Oprah, or Paris Hilton. But if you have access to the internet and still believe the fake narratives in the Adam Ruins Everything series then you deserve $400 glasses.
 
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DWTripp wrote:
This is news? There have been documentaries done on Luxotica in the past and there aren't any real secrets here. Plus, what kind of moron pays $400 for a pair of glasses? I have two pair that are for back-up and they cost $65 for both. Then I have a nice pair of Ray-bans with those high tech lenses that darken and get light dependent on sunlight. Ray-Bans, high tech plastic shape-shifting = $210 total.

The problem isn't "regulation" it's over regulation. Regulation up to a point is fine, like needing a certificate from the Health department to operate a restaurant or other benign but helpful forms of government doing a service. Luxotica is also not an American company so I'd imagine you couldn't regulate them anyway. Hell Apple is damn near a monopoly it controls over half the smart phone smart watch and tablet market (or did) and there is still healthy competition.

Who the fuck pays over $400 for a pair of glasses? Hillary maybe, or Oprah, or Paris Hilton. But if you have access to the internet and still believe the fake narratives in the Adam Ruins Everything series then you deserve $400 glasses.


Progressive lenses that correct for my astigmatism in frames that will last a few years *and* not make me look like Milhouse can easily run over $400. Would you like to laugh at my buddy that pays hundreds for orthopaedic shoes when you can get shoes for $10 at Walmart?
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This is news? There have been documentaries done on Luxotica in the past and there aren't any real secrets here. Plus, what kind of moron pays $400 for a pair of glasses? I have two pair that are for back-up and they cost $65 for both. Then I have a nice pair of Ray-bans with those high tech lenses that darken and get light dependent on sunlight. Ray-Bans, high tech plastic shape-shifting = $210 total.

The problem isn't "regulation" it's over regulation. Regulation up to a point is fine, like needing a certificate from the Health department to operate a restaurant or other benign but helpful forms of government doing a service. Luxotica is also not an American company so I'd imagine you couldn't regulate them anyway. Hell Apple is damn near a monopoly it controls over half the smart phone smart watch and tablet market (or did) and there is still healthy competition.

Who the fuck pays over $400 for a pair of glasses? Hillary maybe, or Oprah, or Paris Hilton. But if you have access to the internet and still believe the fake narratives in the Adam Ruins Everything series then you deserve $400 glasses.


Progressive lenses that correct for my astigmatism in frames that will last a few years *and* not make me look like Milhouse can easily run over $400. Would you like to laugh at my buddy that pays hundreds for orthopaedic shoes when you can get shoes for $10 at Walmart?


I thought you moose-cockers had free everything. My lenses require a very complicated correction that isn't by any means normal. It's an unusual prescription and I could go look at my prescription and prove it. So yeah, I think it's plain stupid to believe that you have to pay $400 for good glasses. Maybe Canadians are just stupid to begin with? Judging from the RSP input from your fellows up there I'd put money on that. But not $400.

Is a guy who needs orthopedic shoes and has to pay for them himself the way socialized medicine works up there? Down here you can get that stuff for free unless you're making a ton of money.

Here's a picture of me, looking fucking awesome, in my not-$400 complicated prescription, color-shifting, Ray-Bans:






Luxotica can go suck it.
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DWTripp wrote:
Here's a picture of me, looking fucking awesome, in my not-$400 complicated prescription, color-shifting, Ray-Bans


Nice beard! (Not sarcasm, since it reads pretty easy either way. It's a good look.)
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Shampoo4you wrote:


Between Wall Street, the big banks, and crap like this, I'd say we need more constrains on capitalism, not fewer.


What kind of "constraints" are you proposing....price controls?


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Here's a picture of me, looking fucking awesome, in my not-$400 complicated prescription, color-shifting, Ray-Bans


Nice beard! (Not sarcasm, since it reads pretty easy either way. It's a good look.)


Thanks? I was actually fishing for a complement on my superb taste in under $400 a pair eyewear. I do like beards though and since a lot of men can't grow them I figure it's my obligation to carry the torch for the follically challenged.
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Ferretman wrote:
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Between Wall Street, the big banks, and crap like this, I'd say we need more constrains on capitalism, not fewer.


What kind of "constraints" are you proposing....price controls?


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Separating the several different aspects of the business that the company currently holds a near-monopoly over for starters.
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Thanks? I was actually fishing for a complement on my superb taste in under $400 a pair eyewear. I do like beards though and since a lot of men can't grow them I figure it's my obligation to carry the torch for the follically challenged.


As someone forever locked at a 5 o'clock shadow (at best), it is appreciated.

Shades look good too.
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Shampoo4you wrote:
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Between Wall Street, the big banks, and crap like this, I'd say we need more constrains on capitalism, not fewer.


What kind of "constraints" are you proposing....price controls?


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Separating the several different aspects of the business that the company currently holds a near-monopoly over for starters.


Here, let me help you to gain the knowledge of the Ancients, those who have long kept the secrets of how a free market works to serve the least informed and most helpless among all Gawd's children:

http://bfy.tw/7imX
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DWTripp wrote:
like needing a certificate from the Health department to operate a restaurant or other benign but helpful forms of government doing a service




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DWTripp wrote:
Here, let me help you to gain the knowledge of the Ancients, those who have long kept the secrets of how a free market works to serve the least informed and most helpless among all Gawd's children:

http://bfy.tw/7imX


Actually I just typed "glasses" into google search and two of the top four entries were discount eyewear sites. So like we've already solved the problem of overpriced eyewear.

Another example of "ohmygodtheresaproblemletspassalaw" from a place of ignorance. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, as, naturally, all of us are ignorant of the vast majority of what there is to know. But of course, if you are ignorant, you shouldn't presume to tell other people how they must do things (it's likely that they know better than you do how to best handle their particular situation.)
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Libertarian paradise - you always have the freedom of choic e to be nearly blind and not drive etc.
 
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Thanks? I was actually fishing for a complement on my superb taste in under $400 a pair eyewear. I do like beards though and since a lot of men can't grow them I figure it's my obligation to carry the torch for the follically challenged.

I call bullshit. You don't like to shave. Same reason I have my beard. Plus, the chicks dig it.
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DWTripp wrote:
Luxotica can go suck it.

Since Luxotica owns Ray-Ban, I guess they just sucked your $210.
 
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aiabx wrote:
DWTripp wrote:
This is news? There have been documentaries done on Luxotica in the past and there aren't any real secrets here. Plus, what kind of moron pays $400 for a pair of glasses? I have two pair that are for back-up and they cost $65 for both. Then I have a nice pair of Ray-bans with those high tech lenses that darken and get light dependent on sunlight. Ray-Bans, high tech plastic shape-shifting = $210 total.

The problem isn't "regulation" it's over regulation. Regulation up to a point is fine, like needing a certificate from the Health department to operate a restaurant or other benign but helpful forms of government doing a service. Luxotica is also not an American company so I'd imagine you couldn't regulate them anyway. Hell Apple is damn near a monopoly it controls over half the smart phone smart watch and tablet market (or did) and there is still healthy competition.

Who the fuck pays over $400 for a pair of glasses? Hillary maybe, or Oprah, or Paris Hilton. But if you have access to the internet and still believe the fake narratives in the Adam Ruins Everything series then you deserve $400 glasses.


Progressive lenses that correct for my astigmatism in frames that will last a few years *and* not make me look like Milhouse can easily run over $400. Would you like to laugh at my buddy that pays hundreds for orthopaedic shoes when you can get shoes for $10 at Walmart?


I don't know exactly what you prescription, but if you shop online you should be able to get even progressive prescriptions for less than $100
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Shampoo4you wrote:
Ferretman wrote:
Shampoo4you wrote:


Between Wall Street, the big banks, and crap like this, I'd say we need more constrains on capitalism, not fewer.


What kind of "constraints" are you proposing....price controls?


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Separating the several different aspects of the business that the company currently holds a near-monopoly over for starters.


There's rationale to doing that, definitely.

Gets tricky when one group says that leads to inefficiencies and the other says it doesn't, but that's workable.





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aiabx wrote:
DWTripp wrote:
This is news? There have been documentaries done on Luxotica in the past and there aren't any real secrets here. Plus, what kind of moron pays $400 for a pair of glasses? I have two pair that are for back-up and they cost $65 for both. Then I have a nice pair of Ray-bans with those high tech lenses that darken and get light dependent on sunlight. Ray-Bans, high tech plastic shape-shifting = $210 total.

The problem isn't "regulation" it's over regulation. Regulation up to a point is fine, like needing a certificate from the Health department to operate a restaurant or other benign but helpful forms of government doing a service. Luxotica is also not an American company so I'd imagine you couldn't regulate them anyway. Hell Apple is damn near a monopoly it controls over half the smart phone smart watch and tablet market (or did) and there is still healthy competition.

Who the fuck pays over $400 for a pair of glasses? Hillary maybe, or Oprah, or Paris Hilton. But if you have access to the internet and still believe the fake narratives in the Adam Ruins Everything series then you deserve $400 glasses.


Progressive lenses that correct for my astigmatism in frames that will last a few years *and* not make me look like Milhouse can easily run over $400. Would you like to laugh at my buddy that pays hundreds for orthopaedic shoes when you can get shoes for $10 at Walmart?


I don't know exactly what you prescription, but if you shop online you should be able to get even progressive prescriptions for less than $100


It's not the cheapest glass and I get someone who knows what they are doing to fit them properly. Shoes and glasses I buy from real live people.
 
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Huh, interesting. I'm pretty grateful that my vision isn't too terrible and I basically haven't bothered to wear my glasses at all. That said vertical integration of also the insurance company though is alarming, the supply and control also of the primary POS though isn't unexpected.
 
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You are paying for the service then. I took a chance and bought online last time around. Came in the mail, worked great, paid like 1/4 the price.
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aiabx wrote:
It's not the cheapest glass and I get someone who knows what they are doing to fit them properly. Shoes and glasses I buy from real live people.
googoo "Dollar Tree"-$1 'glasses' bought for yet another, since they lacked the means for several even. cool
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Regulation is the enemy of freedom.


Because anarchy is so much better
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jeremycobert wrote:
Regulation is the enemy of freedom.
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Because anarchy is so much better
devil ~"MAL~Wartists"!
 
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