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This is happening both in Sharon, VT, and in Nauvoo, IL.

It's a very weird movement to me, and the mixed responses of the natives is also fascinating.

They love the money, but hate losing the character of their towns.
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This is happening both in Sharon, VT, and in Nauvoo, IL.

It's a very weird movement to me, and the mixed responses of the natives is also fascinating.

They love the money, but hate losing the character of their towns.


This has been going on for a number of years. Is there something that brought this to your attention now?
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jeff brown wrote:
windsagio wrote:
This is happening both in Sharon, VT, and in Nauvoo, IL.

It's a very weird movement to me, and the mixed responses of the natives is also fascinating.

They love the money, but hate losing the character of their towns.


This has been going on for a number of years. Is there something that brought this to your attention now?


I new about Nauvoo, but I saw a story on Atlas Obscura about Sharon that reminded me of it.

Regardless of how long it's been going on, it's a weird movement and worth talking about :D
 
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The AO story:


http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/joseph-smiths-vermont-h...

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Smith was born on the border of what are now Sharon and South Royalton; and in 1905 the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints erected a 50-foot tall granite obelisk in his honor. Despite the 80,000 tourists or so who make the pilgrimage, the communities surrounding Sharon and South Royalton remain sleepy towns among pastoral rolling green hills.

That may all change if David Hall’s dream comes to fruition. He wants to build a 21st century version of a utopic development—one with very tiny dwellings.
 
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It's when they start muscling in on the casserole industry that I'll start to worry.
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windsagio wrote:
The AO story:


http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/joseph-smiths-vermont-h...

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Smith was born on the border of what are now Sharon and South Royalton; and in 1905 the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints erected a 50-foot tall granite obelisk in his honor. Despite the 80,000 tourists or so who make the pilgrimage, the communities surrounding Sharon and South Royalton remain sleepy towns among pastoral rolling green hills.

That may all change if David Hall’s dream comes to fruition. He wants to build a 21st century version of a utopic development—one with very tiny dwellings.


That's interesting I've never heard of David Hall before or of any such plans to build a city in Sharon.
 
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They have the RIGHT to "live" anywhere they 'desire' JUST as long that THIS is F-A-R away from 'moi'! FREE 'bowl of soup' with 'magic-hat' "purchase" even! cool
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It's when they start muscling in on the casserole industry that I'll start to worry.


It isn't "muscling in" on the casserole industry. Look, we just know casseroles. If you've ever had funeral potatoes, you know what we're talking about. And if we just haaaaaaaaappen to introduce our superior brand of casseroles into your neighborhood potluck and suddenly nobody wants your inferior casseroles anymore, who is to say we "muscled in" on it? It's just the free casserole market at work.

And God.
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jeff brown wrote:
windsagio wrote:
The AO story:


http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/joseph-smiths-vermont-h...

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Smith was born on the border of what are now Sharon and South Royalton; and in 1905 the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints erected a 50-foot tall granite obelisk in his honor. Despite the 80,000 tourists or so who make the pilgrimage, the communities surrounding Sharon and South Royalton remain sleepy towns among pastoral rolling green hills.

That may all change if David Hall’s dream comes to fruition. He wants to build a 21st century version of a utopic development—one with very tiny dwellings.


That's interesting I've never heard of David Hall before or of any such plans to build a city in Sharon.


For our fifth anniversary, my wife wanted to go to New England to take photos of covered bridges and lighthouses. Since I didn't care what we did because.... anniversary.... I went along with it. So on Sunday, we ended up in Sharon Vermont. Went to church there. Turns out, it isn't marginally associated with Joseph Smith. It's where he was born.

And yes, the LDS church is big on its church history stuff. So... you're gonna get some history-forcing going on.
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It's when they start muscling in on the casserole industry that I'll start to worry.
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It isn't "muscling in" on the casserole industry. Look, we just know casseroles. If you've ever had funeral potatoes, you know what we're talking about. And if we just haaaaaaaaappen to introduce our superior brand of casseroles into your neighborhood potluck and suddenly nobody wants your inferior casseroles anymore, who is to say we "muscled in" on it? It's just the free casserole market at work.

And God.
It t`was 'musseling in' "casseroles" preferably, since, M-O-R-E-! for US enjoyments. cool
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For our fifth anniversary, my wife wanted to go to New England to take photos of covered bridges and lighthouses. Since I didn't care what we did because.... anniversary.... I went along with it. So on Sunday, we ended up in Sharon Vermont. Went to church there. Turns out, it isn't marginally associated with Joseph Smith. It's where he was born.

And yes, the LDS church is big on its church history stuff. So... you're gonna get some history-forcing going on.
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batman wrote:
It's when they start muscling in on the casserole industry that I'll start to worry.


It isn't "muscling in" on the casserole industry. Look, we just know casseroles. If you've ever had funeral potatoes, you know what we're talking about. And if we just haaaaaaaaappen to introduce our superior brand of casseroles into your neighborhood potluck and suddenly nobody wants your inferior casseroles anymore, who is to say we "muscled in" on it? It's just the free casserole market at work.

And God.
RSP educated me about a subtype of casserole called "hotdish," and from reading about it on Wikipedia I learned that sometimes the basis of hotdish is a matrix of tater tots. Let's just take a minute to savor how inspired that is: a matrix of tots.
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I should probably be more patient, but here's the secret:

Although the utopia article is interesting, I mainly wanted to test Sue's theory.
 
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I should probably be more patient, but here's the secret:

Although the utopia article is interesting, I mainly wanted to test Sue's theory.


You mean you really didn't care about the nuance of Mormon culture?

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GameCrossing wrote:
windsagio wrote:
I should probably be more patient, but here's the secret:

Although the utopia article is interesting, I mainly wanted to test Sue's theory.


You mean you really didn't care about the nuance of Mormon culture?


Actually I do! I try to not stir you folks up though, damn bees.

I wanted to test the C/T hypothesis, and at the same time this historical obsession is something I was legitimately curious about :p

Generally when I think "Mormon obsession with History" I think "FARMS"
 
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Nauvoo was nothing more than a hole in the swamp before Joseph Smith settled it and made into one of the largest cities in the state (2nd largest at the time?). If it's lost any of its original character, it's probably because the Mormons were forced to leave or take it up with the business end of a Kentucky long rifle.
 
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You know I mis read the title as

Morons buying up/taking over towns associated with Joseph Smith.

Dyslexia can be a wonderful thing.
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Nauvoo was nothing more than a hole in the swamp before Joseph Smith settled it and made into one of the largest cities in the state (2nd largest at the time?). If it's lost any of its original character, it's probably because the Mormons were forced to leave or take it up with the business end of a Kentucky long rifle.


It was a bit less polite than that.

He found one too many ancient indian jesus' in one too many someone else's wives panties.

"We're throwing Captain Diddlemore's body over the border into the river after we shoot him for good measure. Anyone else care to join him? Just one? Shoot him too. Anyone else? No? Good. Now get the fuck out."



Outside of Mormon tourism, there are weeds and it floods.

Some sort of pumpkin festival and lots of corn.
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OMG!

I don't have any intellectual respect for the Joseph Smith story any more than I have for the stories of any other scripture, all saturated with nonsense and inconsistencies. Memorializing the locations associated with Joseph Smith is different how from the Wailing Wall, Joseph's Tomb, The Dome of the Rock, The Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where Jesus had a sandwich, where Muhammad took a dump, etc. ad infinitum.

Look how the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to ridicule Mormonism, presumably because there's no chance they'll be beheaded. While simultaneously, they'd have a conniption if anyone dared to suggest Islam is less than the metaphysical definition of peace, much less say anything critical about, for example, a not-at-all-related-to-islam terrorist bombing. It's pretty hypocritical.
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Look how the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to ridicule Mormonism, presumably because there's no chance they'll be beheaded.


Anyone thinking anyone posting anything on this site will lead to a chance of them getting beheaded is such an idiot I'd be amazed at their ability to use a keyboard.
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OMG!

I don't have any intellectual respect for the Joseph Smith story any more than I have for the stories of any other scripture, all saturated with nonsense and inconsistencies. Memorializing the locations associated with Joseph Smith is different how from the Wailing Wall, Joseph's Tomb, The Dome of the Rock, The Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where Jesus had a sandwich, where Muhammad took a dump, etc. ad infinitum.

Look how the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to ridicule Mormonism, presumably because there's no chance they'll be beheaded. While simultaneously, they'd have a conniption if anyone dared to suggest Islam is less than the metaphysical definition of peace, much less say anything critical about, for example, a not-at-all-related-to-islam terrorist bombing. It's pretty hypocritical.
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As (most likely) one of the usual suspects, you're full of crap. There are more Islamic apologists in your mind then haunt these halls. Islam is hands down the shittiest of all the Abrahamic religions.

I only occasionally go after Mormon's because if I go to far I'll be denied casserole access. MMmmm... casserole.
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I don't have any intellectual respect for the Joseph Smith story any more than I have for the stories of any other scripture, all saturated with nonsense and inconsistencies.

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Look how the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to ridicule Mormonism, presumably because there's no chance they'll be beheaded.

Emphasis mine
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isaacc wrote:

OMG!

I don't have any intellectual respect for the Joseph Smith story any more than I have for the stories of any other scripture, all saturated with nonsense and inconsistencies. Memorializing the locations associated with Joseph Smith is different how from the Wailing Wall, Joseph's Tomb, The Dome of the Rock, The Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where Jesus had a sandwich, where Muhammad took a dump, etc. ad infinitum.

Look how the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to ridicule Mormonism, presumably because there's no chance they'll be beheaded. While simultaneously, they'd have a conniption if anyone dared to suggest Islam is less than the metaphysical definition of peace, much less say anything critical about, for example, a not-at-all-related-to-islam terrorist bombing. It's pretty hypocritical.
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I think if people were saying

MORMONS ARE EVIL MUST MUST BE DEALT WITH!!!! BUILD A WALL AROUND UTAH AND KEEP THE MURDEROUS FILTH OUT!!!!

They would being saying that is bollocks too.

There is a difference between mocking a religion, and calling for it to be bomb into the stone age.
 
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