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"Hillary Clinton's campaign is stealing from her poorest supporters by purposefully and repeatedly overcharging them after they make what's supposed to be a one-time small donation through her official campaign website...

The overcharges are occurring so often that the fraud department at one of the nation's biggest banks receives up to 100 phone calls a day from Clinton's small donors asking for refunds for unauthorized charges to their bankcards made by Clinton's campaign. One elderly Clinton donor, who has been a victim of this fraud scheme, has filed a complaint with her state's attorney general...

...the Clinton campaign has been pulling this stunt since Spring of this year. The Hillary for America campaign will overcharge small donors by repeatedly charging small amounts such as $20 to the bankcards of donors who made a one-time donation. However, the Clinton campaign strategically doesn't overcharge these donors $100 or more because the bank would then be obligated to investigate the fraud.

'We don't investigate fraudulent charges unless they are over $100. ... The Clinton campaign knows this, that's why we don't see any charges over the $100 amount...'

...'They will call the Clinton campaign to get their refund and the issue never gets resolved. So they call us and we just issue the refund. The Clinton campaign knows these charges are small potatoes and that we'll just refund the money back.'...

'We see this same scheme with a lot of seedy porn companies,' the source said. ... 'The people who call us are just the ones who catch the fraudulent charges. I can’t imagine how many more people are getting overcharged by Hillary's campaign and they have no idea.'

...the bank's fraud department is yet to receive one call from a Donald Trump supporter...

'It took me at least 40 to 50 phone calls to the campaign office before I finally got ahold of someone. After I got a campaign worker on the phone, she said they would stop making the charges.'[u] Incredibly, the very next day, Carol's card was charged yet again and the campaign had never reversed the initial fraudulent charges. 'I was told they would stop charging my mother's card but they never stopped.'

...the bank would not reverse the charges and that a bank spokesperson told him that they had no control over companies that make unauthorized charges. At that point, Roger decided to contact his local news and filed a fraud complaint with Minnesota Attorney General
Lori Swanson's office on behalf of his mother. After local TV news Kare 11 ran a story, someone from US Bank contacted Roger the next day and said that they had reversed and stopped the charges to his mother's card.

A representative from Minnesota's Democratic attorney general's office told Roger that this problem wasn't in their jurisdiction and that they had forwarded the case to the FEC. However, FEC spokesperson Julia Queen told the Observer they have no record of the case. ...

removed from their donor list; however, the campaign did not take any responsibility for the fraudulent charges.

...decided she's not going to vote for Hillary even though she's voted for the Democratic presidential nominee every election since President Dwight Eisenhower won reelection in 1956. ...

The New York Times reported in 2007 that Clinton's first presidential campaign had to refund and subtract hundreds of thousands of dollars from its first-quarter total often because donors' credit cards were charged twice. Additionally, it was reported that Clinton had to refund a stunning $2.8 million in donations, three times more than the $900K President Barack Obama's campaign refunded.

...to inflate her small donor numbers reported to the FEC. ... 'The money that the bank has refunded would not be reflected in the FEC filings till after the election. This gives off the illusion to the public that her support and the amount she's raised is much greater than what it is in reality.'

...voluntarily left the campaign's finance committee after she discovered $3,000 in unauthorized charges made by Clinton's campaign to her Visa card. Callahan said the unauthorized charges caused $400 in overdraft and bank charges and put Callahan over the legal donor limit. ...

In 2001, the Clintons were accused of attempting to steal items donated to the White House during Bill's presidency as he exited office. There was $190,000 worth of gifts in question that the Clintons shipped to their then new estate in Chappaqua, New York.

...In reality, the Clintons steal from people who have little money and they're robbing some of Hillary's most impoverished supporters -- including a poor elderly grandma -- to fund her campaign."

http://observer.com/2016/09/exclusive-hillary-clinton-campai...

What a pair of grifters! I had forgotten how they tried to ship White House furnishing to their new home as they were "dead broke."

Just another Clinton computer system set up to break the law...
 
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The source said he’s apolitical but noted that the bank’s fraud department is yet to receive one call from a Donald Trump supporter claiming to have been overcharged by Trump’s campaign. “I’m only talking to you because what Hillary’s doing is so messed up, she’s stealing from her poorest supporters.”


Take note. This is the kind of thing that really makes me start doubting an article's veracity. This is such a bizarre, out of context, and unnecessary addition to the article that I inherently start looking for things that indicate the article is full of shit.

Don't do this. At best, all you do is undermine yourself. Even if the article is 100% true and accurate, this sort of inclusion casts doubt onto the objectivity of the reporter because it transforms the work from an investigation into an issue into an advertisement for one side of a political race. The default assumption is already that a campaign is not stealing money, so by drawing attention to the Trump campaign not doing it (rather than sticking purely to the Clinton campaign doing it), you become an endorser.

Which is fine in certain circumstances, but is, at best, stupid in this one.

EDIT: Forgot to address article otherwise. If true, obviously bad. Elements of the article make me leery though (only one person they reference despite hundreds of daily complaints, bank not doing anything about unauthorized charges is actually really kinda weird in my experience, other story they refer to also seems to lack definitive proof ala a bank statement from my quick perusal, etc). Would be curious if more surfaced, though.
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sikeospi wrote:
"Hillary Clinton's campaign is stealing from her poorest supporters by purposefully and repeatedly overcharging them after they make what's supposed to be a one-time small donation through her official campaign website...




Says Liz Crokin, champion Trump apologist, self described entertainment journalist, ex-Bill O'Reilly intern and ex denizen of the pages of US Weekly and Star magazine.

I'm SURE she was being entirely objective when paraphrasing her anonymous "bank" sources.
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If true this is as bad as when Trump did it.

http://www.kare11.com/news/investigations/kare-11-investigat...

No reference to them contacting the bank, of course they may have contacted then latter.

http://www.citypages.com/news/sweet-old-woman-asks-hillary-c...

Again rather more nuanced.

Problem is I (like others) find it very hard to accept the bank would not allow a refund, or (I have to assume) refused to stop the payments.
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This would be big trouble for the Clinton campaign if true. Wondering, though, why the Mahres aren't filing a complaint with the FEC?

And, while I don't know the Mahres at all, the lady is 81 years old. I've had a lot of experience over the last decade on how the really old spend money. There are some who are still as sharp as ever, and make smart choices. There are others, though, like my grandfather-in-law, who spent most of his savings after his wife died on going to the diner and dropping $20 tips on the waitress, buying worthless "collectable" coins, donating money to anyone who called him on the phone, etc. My mother, who just turned 89, is careful with her money, but is quite forgetful -- she paid her water bill five times in one month. Fortunately, because of that, she won't get another bill until December.

I won't, however, question the presence of bike-riding Swedes being left out of the story...
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remorseless1 wrote:
This would be big trouble for the Clinton campaign if true. Wondering, though, why the Mahres aren't filing a complaint with the FEC?


What makes you think the FEC would do anything about it?

The political class protects its own.
 
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Disclosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, the publisher of Observer Media.


mmmmmhmmmm
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mightygodking wrote:
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Disclosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, the publisher of Observer Media.


mmmmmhmmmm
Were this 'guy' married to his Son with the 'parrotfish-lips'? >sauron ~"MY 'two-lips' were 'pining', upon an ORGAN in a 'Fjord'!"
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Drew1365 wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
This would be big trouble for the Clinton campaign if true. Wondering, though, why the Mahres aren't filing a complaint with the FEC?


What makes you think the FEC would do anything about it?

The political class protects its own.

Because they filed a complaint, then the FEC would be forced to either investigate or disallow. If the FEC disallowed, it would make a huge scandal.
 
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Thanks for the rent-free space in your head. Would have been nice if you'd cleaned it up a bit before you rented it out, though.
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remorseless1 wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
This would be big trouble for the Clinton campaign if true. Wondering, though, why the Mahres aren't filing a complaint with the FEC?


What makes you think the FEC would do anything about it?

The political class protects its own.

Because they filed a complaint, then the FEC would be forced to either investigate or disallow. If the FEC disallowed, it would make a huge scandal.


As huge as the FBI clearing Hillary of wrongdoing? As huge as the DOJ deciding not to prosecute? As huge as the entire Washington establishment running cover for Hillary no matter how many crimes she commits?

That's already happening, and you dismiss it all with "meh."
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Yes folks, there must be a cover up.

I AM NOT GETTING THE RESULT I DEMAND!!!!!!
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Drew1365 wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
This would be big trouble for the Clinton campaign if true. Wondering, though, why the Mahres aren't filing a complaint with the FEC?


What makes you think the FEC would do anything about it?

The political class protects its own.


Besides, wouldn't Trump gut the FEC anyway, because, you know....regulation is bad?
 
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Yes folks, there must be a cover up.

I AM NOT GETTING THE RESULT I DEMAND!!!!!!
'Spelt' OUT as what 'precisely' then?

sauron-Chef Watson ~trumpblankkarglesnarfrinder
 
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