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Other Pax games can be played by up to 5-6 players. In my gaming group we are usually 5. Is there any chance to add a 5th player? If there isn't are there plans for an expansion that will allow such a thing?
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I agree. Enabling 5 or 6 players would be grand!

Especially since it's predecessor, Lords of the Renaissance, played up to 12 players, it's only fair!
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Gorgoneion wrote:
Other Pax games can be played by up to 5-6 players. In my gaming group we are usually 5. Is there any chance to add a 5th player? If there isn't are there plans for an expansion that will allow such a thing?

For a while in development, there was a 5th player: a historical Jewish banker who managed the Genoese Saint George bank in the Crimea, in Caffa. His was an adventurous life, as this bank was managed in the hybrid tripartite regime forged between the Crim Tartars, Genoese, and the Crimean Goths. When the Ottomans attacked, he traveled hidden mountain paths in the Gothia, laden with the investor's gold, and managed to set up shop on some island again. Reminds me of the exploit of the manager of the Hermosillo Bank during Pax Porfiriana, who also fled along hidden paths in a wagon laden with investor's gold, when the independent state of Sonora went socialist and sought to seize the gold. To the relief of the investors, he too set up shop again, this time in my home city of Tucson.

To answer your question, I would consider developing a 5th player if the game is received well. I worry that the game might run too long.
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phileklund wrote:
Gorgoneion wrote:
Other Pax games can be played by up to 5-6 players. In my gaming group we are usually 5. Is there any chance to add a 5th player? If there isn't are there plans for an expansion that will allow such a thing?

For a while in development, there was a 5th player: a historical Jewish banker who managed the Genoese Saint George bank in the Crimea, in Caffa. His was an adventurous life, as this bank was managed in the hybrid tripartite regime forged between the Crim Tartars, Genoese, and the Crimean Goths. When the Ottomans attacked, he traveled hidden mountain paths in the Gothia, laden with the investor's gold, and managed to set up shop on some island again. Reminds me of the exploit of the manager of the Hermosillo Bank during Pax Porfiriana, who also fled along hidden paths in a wagon laden with investor's gold, when the independent state of Sonora went socialist and sought to seize the gold. To the relief of the investors, he too set up shop again, this time in my home city of Tucson.

To answer your question, I would consider developing a 5th player if the game is received well. I worry that the game might run too long.


That is an enticing story! Well for what it is worth, you would have at least a purchase from me!

How long are we talking about?
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I'd get a fifth player expansion, for sure.
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phileklund wrote:

For a while in development, there was a 5th player: a historical Jewish banker who managed the Genoese Saint George bank in the Crimea, in Caffa. [..........]
I would consider developing a 5th player if the game is received well. I worry that the game might run too long.

I hope that this idea is still alive(in your plans) - I remembered this discussion recently, during my last "Pax Renaissance" game.
(4 additional cards in each draw deck => 20 min longer game?)
Everything what we need to know - where to place the starting concession cube of the 5th player? I suppose - between Hungary & Byzantium.
(10 cubes I can take from other Pax games)
Will the Byzantium map card look (almost) the same?
Thank you!
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Pax Ren is quite quick so I dont think a 5 player would make it too long but i do think it would make too much to track and too much change in the market between turns.

I think the game is "complete" as is but would welcome expansions that added events, covered a slightly later time period or just more wonderfulness.
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