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Austin Andersen
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As Forbidden Stars is more or less OOP, I am wondering what other games that are in print scratch a similar itch.
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The also out of print Star Craft. The Horus Hersey board game also oop now, has different mechanics, but a fun battle system, that went on to become the conquest battle system mixed with Starcrafts.
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It depends a little on what the itch is for you, but your best bet for an in print game is A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition).
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There really is one other, which is mentioned above: Game of Thrones board game.

BUT!

Forbidden Stars is simply much better. Not to disrespect Game of Thrones, one of my favorite games, but Forbidden Stars does a lot of it better.

Once FFG realizes that Game of Thrones 3rd Edition should have modular board (you could still build Westeros with it if you wamt) and victory point and upgrade system similar to Forbidden Stars, then it would sell like hotcakes.

I still consider Game of Thrones a near perfect game, with its only fault the truly non-modular board. The three power track system is amazing.

One could only hope.

But long story short, Forbidden Stars really is the best of this kind of game. And we can hope for a reimplementation to do it better.

One day.
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Twilight Imperium??
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What aspect of Forbidden stars are you looking to capture?

That would affect my recommendation.

These come to my mind for some reason:
-Kemet
-Dune/Rex
-Blood Rage
-Cry Havoc
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As far as dudes-on-a-map games are concerned, it's quite unique. I have a feeling it will be re-skinned by Fantasy Flight Games using an original setting that is only reminiscent of the 40K Universe.
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Dalek5 wrote:
What aspect of Forbidden stars are you looking to capture?

That would affect my recommendation.

These come to my mind for some reason:
-Kemet
-Dune/Rex
-Blood Rage
-Cry Havoc


Dudes on a map awesomeness with asymmetry and depth. I also like that it has bluffing aspects as well as multiple paths to victory.

Dice combat is nice especially when combined with card play. Gaining tech is cool as well. I also like the order system.

Now I'm sure there won't be a game that has every base covered, but if the recommendation did some of these things really well as well as integrate other new things, I'd be game.

At this point, having said all that, I think Cry Havoc looks very interesting to me.
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Unfortunately I can see nothing that can replace Forbidden Stars Happy owner of the copy.
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ras2124 wrote:
It depends a little on what the itch is for you, but your best bet for an in print game is A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition).


From what I've read, it looks like this game is great... but with 6 players and not at other player counts.
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bbblasterfire wrote:
ras2124 wrote:
It depends a little on what the itch is for you, but your best bet for an in print game is A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition).


From what I've read, it looks like this game is great... but with 6 players and not at other player counts.
4+ is good. The static board does limit lower player counts though.
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I've played A Game of Thrones a couple of times with 5-6 players. Decent enough game, but doesn't begin to scratch the same itch that Forbidden Stars does.
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Runewars is probably the closest of games that are in print, but it is still a lot different.
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bbblasterfire wrote:
ras2124 wrote:
It depends a little on what the itch is for you, but your best bet for an in print game is A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition).


From what I've read, it looks like this game is great... but with 6 players and not at other player counts.

Na. It sucks at all player count.
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Forbidden stars is just so darn good. IMO best battle system in any game. Copies are still available, just get it. That simple buy it and play it. I am banking you will eventually see some form of content. Now if that just is not an option for you. Kemet (again IMO) is a nice option.
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Gylthinel wrote:
bbblasterfire wrote:
ras2124 wrote:
It depends a little on what the itch is for you, but your best bet for an in print game is A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition).


From what I've read, it looks like this game is great... but with 6 players and not at other player counts.

Na. It sucks at all player count.
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, but a 13 year old game that is still in the top 100 can't be all that bad.

BTW I am actually curious what in particular you don't like since most major mechanics of the game appear in some form in Forbidden Stars.
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All the FFG games with a Games Workshop license are going out of print. Get'em while you can (Chaos in the Old World too).
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ras2124 wrote:
Gylthinel wrote:
bbblasterfire wrote:
ras2124 wrote:
It depends a little on what the itch is for you, but your best bet for an in print game is A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition).


From what I've read, it looks like this game is great... but with 6 players and not at other player counts.

Na. It sucks at all player count.
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, but a 13 year old game that is still in the top 100 can't be all that bad.

BTW I am actually curious what in particular you don't like since most major mechanics of the game appear in some form in Forbidden Stars.


I like both games. However Game of Thrones plays completely differently than Forbidden Stars and StarCraft. Its true you place order tokens in Game of Thrones, but they work completely different than Forbidden Stars. There is no stacking, you are required to give each army an order and other than the movement order they have completely different functions.


Both are great games to me, but I don't feel Game of Thrones has much similarity. I have seen them compared multiple times and always wonder why.
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MonkeyKnifeFight wrote:
ras2124 wrote:
Gylthinel wrote:
bbblasterfire wrote:
ras2124 wrote:
It depends a little on what the itch is for you, but your best bet for an in print game is A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition).


From what I've read, it looks like this game is great... but with 6 players and not at other player counts.

Na. It sucks at all player count.
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, but a 13 year old game that is still in the top 100 can't be all that bad.

BTW I am actually curious what in particular you don't like since most major mechanics of the game appear in some form in Forbidden Stars.


I like both games. However Game of Thrones plays completely differently than Forbidden Stars and StarCraft. Its true you place order tokens in Game of Thrones, but they work completely different than Forbidden Stars. There is no stacking, you are required to give each army an order and other than the movement order they have completely different functions.


Both are great games to me, but I don't feel Game of Thrones has much similarity. I have seen them compared multiple times and always wonder why.
It gets compared because a lot of the stuff from Game of Thrones was reworked for Starcraft (which then led almost directly into Forbidden Stars). Basically it laid a lot of the ground work for the ideas.

However, I was asking Gylthinel directly since he doesn't seem to think it is good.
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A Game of Thrones is much dryer than Forbidden Stars or Starcraft. Their similarities are superficial. They sure don't feel very similar when you play them. FS and SC both feel very asymmetric and aggressive in comparison to AGoT. Also loaded with more "stuff". I'm curious to hear his opinion as well but I'm not surprised at all that someone would like one and not the other
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I'd guess that it is a fair bet that FFG will make a new game using "dudes-on-a-map" with the order token mechanism in the following years. They have made StarCraft with expansion, and then Forbidden Stars, with prints sold out.
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There is no alternative. There is only war.
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Since this game is so popular the chance of a reskin should be high?
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I'd enjoy an 8 player version for sure. Bring on the TI3 universe, or Terrinoth in space!
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eatem wrote:
Since this game is so popular the chance of a reskin should be high?


StarCraft was out in 2007 and FFG lost the license in 2010 or 2011. It was 4 or 5 more years before Forbidden Stars came out which was very much a sequel to StarCraft mechanics wise. I wouldn't expect anything soon. They have never done a direct reskin. A lot of stuff would be changed even if the core mechanics and gameplay style stayed the same. It would also probably have fewer components for the same price.
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