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Frank Hastings
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I've gotten one game in so far and got crushed as Carthage, need to work on my plans a bit. Love the game so far but when I opened it and saw the game board had gutters I was a little surprised, I thought the industry has moved beyond boards with gutters.
 
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The publisher isn't like an established FFG or GMT you do realize...?
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It's a great looking board. Colourful, but not overworked like so many modern boards. You can still see everything clearly. I don't think the gutters will make a difference of my playing at all (i.e. nothing is folded into the gutters and hard to read).
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Board is gorgeous. I'd have made the neutral town squares white to differentiate them more clearly from the starting Carthage locations but apart from that I love it.
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sushidog wrote:
It's a great looking board. Colourful, but not overworked like so many modern boards. You can still see everything clearly. I don't think the gutters will make a difference of my playing at all (i.e. nothing is folded into the gutters and hard to read).


One Sicilian location is right on a gutter, and the cube won't stay in place. But otherwise, it's fine.
 
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My point is that I didn't even think mounted boards were made this way anymore, even with the most limited of runs.

It's a minor distraction but something I would address if there is a 2nd print run. I would also probably purchase the new map, I like the game that much.

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I like it better than GMTs map that won't lie flat. I busted my Labyrinth board trying to back bend it because I was so annoyed at the bow in it.

Something is messed up when you have to put plexiglass on a mounted board. I'll take the gutters or the Avalon Hill boards any day.
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frankhastings wrote:
My point is that I didn't even think mounted boards were made this way anymore, even with the most limited of runs.

It's a minor distraction but something I would address if there is a 2nd print run. I would also probably purchase the new map, I like the game that much.

This was something that I questioned the manufacturer on, but due to the language barrier the board proceeded into production as is. Once the games began shipping, multiple backers reached out to me with examples from other games with six-fold boards. Scythe was a good example. We will definitely address this in any subsequent printings.

I have commented in the past that it is difficult to catch certain issues or "gotchas" without having produced a specific component or part before. These are definitely learning experiences and growing pains for new publishers. However, I have learned a lot over the years since I manufactured Dark Horse in 2011 for my first KS campaign.

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Counterpoint: Command & Colors Ancients and Successors, which had wonderful boards. I think the Thunder Alley and Grand Prix boards are pretty sweet and lie flat.
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airjudden wrote:
I like it better than GMTs map that won't lie flat. I busted my Labyrinth board trying to back bend it because I was so annoyed at the bow in it.

Something is messed up when you have to put plexiglass on a mounted board. I'll take the gutters or the Avalon Hill boards any day.


I put my hard maps under plexi anyway. I have horrific visions of a tidal wave of coffee or Diet Coke sweeping over the land. Now, if that happened, my counters would surf, but the plexi means one less thing to get destroyed.
 
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lgoldberg wrote:
airjudden wrote:
I like it better than GMTs map that won't lie flat. I busted my Labyrinth board trying to back bend it because I was so annoyed at the bow in it.

Something is messed up when you have to put plexiglass on a mounted board. I'll take the gutters or the Avalon Hill boards any day.


I put my hard maps under plexi anyway. I have horrific visions of a tidal wave of coffee or Diet Coke sweeping over the land. Now, if that happened, my counters would surf, but the plexi means one less thing to get destroyed.


Once the boards are flat then there are no problems in my experience. I'm an old school war-gamer so I have sheets of plexi that cover three of my gameroom tables (up to 4' x 8') but with games like Hands in the Sea I don't need them and I like the portability, this is a great gateway game for my non wargamer friends.
 
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shadowkn wrote:
frankhastings wrote:
My point is that I didn't even think mounted boards were made this way anymore, even with the most limited of runs.

It's a minor distraction but something I would address if there is a 2nd print run. I would also probably purchase the new map, I like the game that much.

This was something that I questioned the manufacturer on, but due to the language barrier the board proceeded into production as is. Once the games began shipping, multiple backers reached out to me with examples from other games with six-fold boards. Scythe was a good example. We will definitely address this in any subsequent printings.

I have commented in the past that it is difficult to catch certain issues or "gotchas" without having produced a specific component or part before. These are definitely learning experiences and growing pains for new publishers. However, I have learned a lot over the years since I manufactured Dark Horse in 2011 for my first KS campaign.



I suspected it was something like a communications issue, I've dealt with ordering from Asia. I purchased Hozen trays for ASL using Rakuten to order them directly from Japan, Google translate only goes so far. In the end I just had to cross my fingers and hope the order was correct.
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