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Subject: Predetermined setup or not for first game? rss

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Dave Schmidt
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Hello,

I'm going to be running a 5 player game on Friday with all of us never having played before. I've read the rules and watched some videos - I think I have a decent understanding of how the game works. It actually seems relatively straight forward - with the depth coming from interacting with the other players and not so much from 'complex mechanics'.

Anyhow - I'm wondering if it's more common to just run the predetermined setup with new people or do the drafting setup?

The drafting setup seems like a fun 'mini game' but I'm not sure if people will understand the ramifications of what they're doing having never played the game.
 
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Billy McBoatface
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Since, as you say, "all of you have never played before," I think none of us would disagree that not never using the predefined starting points wouldn't usually be never a bad idea.

Drafting is fun but time consuming, and the first play will probably run long anyway. Furthermore, with new players there's too much risk that somebody will draft a terrible position and be out of the game right from the start.
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I would go with drafting. Just make sure that everybody is ok with this being a learning game. What it will offer, I think, is the ability to really understand why some provinces are better than other for different things. Some players will probably make a mistake or two, but becoming aware of these mistakes will also make the stronger opponents in the next game.

That's what I think
 
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Do the predetermined. People won't know why they should set up a certain way so just remove that element from it. With additional games, they can do the draft. This game isn't hard to grasp but there are a few things going on so no need to add another layer.
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Wow thanks for the quick replies!
 
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We ended up doing the drafting setup because the other players wanted to. It ended up working fine.
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