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Not making it up. Sorry if this is a repeat.

http://collateraldamage.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/when-board-...
 
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I love the quote:

"That's South Carolina," says Richard Todd, the WTMA-AM talk show host who organized the event. "There are still a lot of stupid laws on the books, stuff like you can't have a horse in the bathtub."


I guess we have a triumvirate now..Georgia, Kentucky, and South Carolina.
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"We don't really do anything about that," says Capt. John Clark, spokesman for the Charleston County Sheriff's Office. "What are we going to do, arrest 5-year-olds?"


Yeah. 'Cause only 5-year olds play games, right?

EDIT: When I lived in SC, interracial dating was still technically illegal. No one enforced the law, but while I was there, the legislature finally decided to put it to vote to take the law off the books, in order to help the state's image (I think they were the last state to still have the law in the books). The state voted for the law to come off the books, but just barely; I think it passed by something like a 60-40 margin. Of course, the wording of the question was so ridiculously convoluted and long that it took me, and educated guy, several reads to determine which way I wanted to vote to agree that, yes, the law no longer needed to be on the books. I can imagine that the average voter would have been confused by the wording.

What's my point? I forget. But it's an interesting read, I hope.
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I always knew there was something inherently evil about South Carolina. I guess they can legally imprison CCG'ers and RPG'ers as their good moral Christian tenets dictate they should.gulp
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So what happens if I play Settlers during an interracial date?
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You have a really boring time. Two-player Settlers is deadly dull.
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Hard to believe the internet community spent 10 years working to block pop-ups just to have bloggers now implement them as a "feature".
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Who said he was dating one person?
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cvonh wrote:
So what happens if I play Settlers during an interracial date?
BANG!


Heh heh heh,
made you look!
 
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I'll have to add that one to my list of "silly laws" I've heard about, which include:

--- Whaling is illegal in Oklahoma.
--- Women may not wear pants in Tucson AZ.
--- It is illegal to fish in the Ohio River in Kentucky without an Indiana fishing license.
--- In Columbia MD, you cannot have an antenna exposed outside your house, but you can have a 25' (7.62 meters) diameter satellite dish.
 
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Good lord is this ensconced in some arcane language. This appears to be the relevant statute:

Code of Laws of South Carolina 1976, Chapter 19, § 16-19-40. Unlawful games and betting.

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If any person shall play at any tavern, inn, store for the retailing of spirituous liquors or in any house used as a place of gaming, barn, kitchen, stable or other outhouse, street, highway, open wood, race field or open place at (a) any game with cards or dice, (b) any gaming table, commonly called A, B, C, or E, O, or any gaming table known or distinguished by any other letters or by any figures, (c) any roley-poley table, (d) rouge et noir, (e) any faro bank (f) any other table or bank of the same or the like kind under any denomination whatsoever or (g) any machine or device licensed pursuant to Section 12-21-2720 and used for gambling purposes, except the games of billiards, bowls, backgammon, chess, draughts, or whist when there is no betting on any such game of billiards, bowls, backgammon, chess, draughts, or whist or shall bet on the sides or hands of such as do game, upon being convicted thereof, before any magistrate, shall be imprisoned for a period of not over thirty days or fined not over one hundred dollars, and every person so keeping such tavern, inn, retail store, public place, or house used as a place for gaming or such other house shall, upon being convicted thereof, upon indictment, be imprisoned for a period not exceeding twelve months and forfeit a sum not exceeding two thousand dollars, for each and every offense.


Anyone know what "gaming tables... A, B, C, or E, O" are?
 
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Legomancer wrote:
Hard to believe the internet community spent 10 years working to block pop-ups just to have bloggers now implement them as a "feature".


Yep. I simply cannot stand that WordPress site-snapshot thing.
 
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Legomancer wrote:
Hard to believe the internet community spent 10 years working to block pop-ups just to have bloggers now implement them as a "feature".


Yeah... that is horrible design. Besides, why not simply post the link to the newspaper here? Link to a blog that links to an article instead?

Here's the article:

http://tinyurl.com/23plz7

On the subject of law and SC, it is legal to beat your wife as long as you do it on the courthouse steps and on Sunday.

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"We don't really do anything about that," says Capt. John Clark, spokesman for the Charleston County Sheriff's Office. "What are we going to do, arrest 5-year-olds?"


Yeah. 'Cause only 5-year olds play games, right?


Well... no. I think that is being said because when you create a law like this you create criminals... in this case, children. I mean, for the purpose of the article and that spokesperson's claim I think that made more sense than "What are we going to do, arrest people who play Heroscape?" would to the reader.

Thankfully, in Mass a charity / non-profit can have three Poker nights a year as a fundraiser. Also, just 40 minutes north in "Live Free or Die" N.H. I have Poker four nights a week in a really friendly 40-70 person tournament at a race track... and about an hour south I have two Indian casinos, Foxwoods and Mohigan.
 
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Legomancer wrote:
Hard to believe the internet community spent 10 years working to block pop-ups just to have bloggers now implement them as a "feature".


wait ... are there popups on my blog? Please let me know if this is the case.
 
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    Appears to be aimed at gambling. The other parts of the code that it references would likely provide some detail.

    Calling South Carolina evil because they have goofball laws will lead you down the path to every state, country, county, or any other legal jurisdiction evil. Thousands of old laws on the books that are just kooky. Prosecutors and Police Officers have a special way of dealing with these laws -- they ignore them.

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Yuglooc wrote:
I'll have to add that one to my list of "silly laws" I've heard about, which include:

--- Whaling is illegal in Oklahoma.
--- Women may not wear pants in Tucson AZ.
--- It is illegal to fish in the Ohio River in Kentucky without an Indiana fishing license.
--- In Columbia MD, you cannot have an antenna exposed outside your house, but you can have a 25' (7.62 meters) diameter satellite dish.


I've read many items and anecdotes about "silly laws", but what bothers me in almost every instance is that the source that references them never gives any sort of statutory or case law reference. It would seem that one could make up any "silly law", propagate it as factual, and have it appear in the pantheon of silly laws by mere Urban Legend status, especially when one propagator of silly laws copies the work of a progenitor and adds it to her own.

Here's are true stories I just made up:
-Until 1962, Horses were required to obtain driver's licenses in Colorado if they were to travel on public streets.
-Chewing Gum is illegal in Connecticut.
-Failure to tip your hat to a lady in the street is punishable by a $10 fine in Jackson, Wyoming. The fine goes to $15 if you neglect to wear a hat.
-Cars are not allowed in the city of Oakleaf, Illinois and must be parked at the city limits.
-Nebraska has a unicameral legislature... wait, that one is true.

Here is a real one:

Kansas had a territorial law that banned cockfighting on Sundays (KSA 21-954). When the law was repealed in 1970, the courts had to analyze the implications of this when the State ex rel. Miller v. Claiborne (505 P.2d 732) came before them. The court determined that since cockfighting had been banned only on Sundays under the previous statute, with no other accompanying cockfighting statute, then this must mean that cockfighting would not be illegal the other six days of the week. Further expounding on this, the court determined that since the law had been repealed, and there was no law to address the issue of cockfighting, the implication was that cockfighting would be legal every day of the week.

The Court wrote:
In the third place, we deem it of some significance that for well over a century, as we have already pointed out, Kansas prohibited cockfighting only on Sunday, from which an inference may reasonably be drawn that cockfighting was legal on the other six days of the week. Moreover, when at last the Sunday statute was repealed, no statute took its place prohibiting in any way, or at any time, such activities as cockfighting, card playing, or horse racing. From such omission the rationale would be that cockfights might be held seven days a week.


BTW, Kansas has since enacted a statue outlawing cockfighting.
 
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I'm going to stray off topic here, but Isaac said something that I'm always thinking after I make a post:

Verkisto wrote:
What's my point? I forget. But it's an interesting read, I hope.
 
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cvonh wrote:

wait ... are there popups on my blog? Please let me know if this is the case.


Those things that mouse-over links.

Also, when you click on "my game collection", it goes to MY game collection, not yours.
 
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I'm not so bothered by the law than by the godawful writing in that article. All the board game puns make me want to bludgeon the writer. It reminds me of articles concerning comic books filled with Onomatopoeia like "BIFF! POW!" or video game articles that use the words "Mortal Kombat" in some clever way. Ugh, it's just so uncreative and sophomoric.
 
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--- It is illegal to fish in the Ohio River in Kentucky without an Indiana fishing license.


I'd have to double check that one since the KY state line starts just a few yards into the Ohio River from the Indiana side. That is most of the river belongs to Kentucky. A friend tells me one of the best fish sites is on the Indiana side at the down river side of the dam at The Falls of the Ohio. An 85 lbs catfish had been taken there recently.
 
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skelebone wrote:

-Chewing Gum is illegal in Connecticut.


OK, so, just in case... when you say "chewing", is that a verb or an adjective? That is, is it illegal to chew gum, or to possess gum that can be used for chewing?
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Speaking of puns:

He should have have titled it; It's unlawful to play a boardgame in South Carolina. Illegal is a sick bird. laugh
 
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cvonh wrote:
So what happens if I play Settlers during an interracial date?


I will give any BGG'er a GeekGold if they dare to Play Settlers during an interracial date with a horse in a bathtub.
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And to think I recently proposed a whole SESSION of gaming in a South Carolina restaurant with a bar recently; I was tempting my accomplices into a life of crime. At least we could have played whist legally.

The summer camp I'm headed to (BSA) in Colorado this summer says "no games of chance". Does that mean I can still bring Bonaparte at Marengo & Diplomacy?
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