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So, hard to know where to put this since the Atlanta game isn't in the database yet, but Gettysburg tends to be the most popular battle for gaming so I'll put it here.

http://www.multimanpublishing.com/tabid/59/ProductID/311/Def...
http://www.multimanpublishing.com/tabid/59/ProductID/345/Def...

http://www.multimanpublishing.com/Products/tabid/58/ProductI...

I am pumped about this! I also think it's awesome that they're combining Roads to Gettysburg AND the Antietam one in the same package.

Super expensive, but I love this series enough that I went big for both! Atlanta will be awesome, BATC was easily my favorite campaign in the system so far.

Also, for all the people unhappy about the counters it looks like they're changed back to be dull as hell, so rejoice.
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Re: MMP reprints, Atlanta and Gettsyburg and Antietam rolled into one!
Excited that they're speeding up the reprints by combining packages, but disappointed in the shift back to dull counters. Oh well, I've already redone my units for the AH games to match BAC and later.
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^I agree completely, but they took endless shit for the "busy" counters from a lot of people so I get the move. It's disappointing to me but the crusty wargame crowd is what it is.
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Yeah, they were busy. Probably too much so. But they introduced a good method for denoting both corps and army affiliation, and the previews for the new counters lose that. Which may be fine for these titles, but isn't impressive from a series-wide viewpoint.

Also, Rebels in the White House is listed as being included in the RTG reprint.
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Forgot about that, thanks for mentioning it...
 
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Interesting... at these prices, are the maps mounted?
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Almost certainly not, none of the other games in the series have mounted maps. Most games in the series rely on map overlap, not just end-to-end butting, to handle the area of interest. That's particularly true for meta-scenarios that link games.

Both boxes, though, look substantially more content-rich than the average game in the series. RTG2 is literally 2.5 separate games in one box. Atlanta is expensive, but 5 advanced scenarios and a 100-page game-specific book (special rules, scenarios, history, commentary) both suggest about twice as much content as usual. I'm pretty sure that's a larger book than SJW2, which was a "two games in one" package in its own right.
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Half-inch counters?
 
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Excellent news all around. Looking forward to the Gettysburg Campaign--spent many hours with the original and I love what I'm seeing. MUST HAVE!

PRE-ORDERED SEPT. 2016cool



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DiamondSylph wrote:
Half-inch counters?
Yes. Here's somebody's box of counters from the previous title in the series for reference:
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garysax wrote:
^I agree completely, but they took endless shit for the "busy" counters from a lot of people so I get the move. It's disappointing to me but the crusty wargame crowd is what it is.
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Yeah, these are much improved in my opinion. I thought I liked the new ones until I actually played with the old ones. The info you needed on the new design was just too hard to find at a casual glace. These new ones are better.
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garysax wrote:
So, hard to know where to put this since the Atlanta game isn't in the database yet, but Gettysburg tends to be the most popular battle for gaming so I'll put it here.


I'm planning on adding an Atlanta Is Ours entry here at BGG next week. So we can discuss it fully there soon.

But thanks for getting this thread going here. Let me know if there are any questions I can answer.
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Well, I would like to know how long the preorder period is open for . . . I am thrilled to have the games, but have to save up to actually buy them.

Thanks for sticking with this series Ed. It has been great having you involved!

Now for the follow-on game to Virgin Queen . . . ;-)
 
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Preorders usually stay up until just before the game ships. So you'll have plenty of time, Chris.

MMP just clarified that we need to hit 500 orders for Atlanta and RTGII, but orders for an individual product do get added in to the orders for the bundle.

With that in mind we are halfway to the preorder target for the two GCACW products and the order page has only been up for a bit over 24 hours. Thanks so much for the response everyone. It's great to see the series has such strong continued support!
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Great news on Atlanta and the reprints packages, even with the much higher price point. Thanks to Ed and the team for keeping the hammers and saws going on this fantastic series (in my mind, the best operational-level treatment of the war).

Speaking of the recent changes, I can deal with the altered counters, so long as the maps don't change.

I do wish the newer boxes were similar to the original AH run, considering the full set of GCACW games (plus Lee v. Grant) now looks very discordant on my shelf.

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Ed,

Has the HCR map edge been edited so that the roads match up with the AGA scenarios?
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Stephen: Absolutely. Charlie has all the map files on the computer now (it's all electronic, not hand-drawn). So the SJWII area will be a perfect match to the maps published with that game and they will seamlessly transition to the HCR area.
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Just saw the Atlanta entry is in the database. VERY psyched. 421 orders taken so very close to making the numbers, and on CSW (ehhhhhhhh) Brian Youse confirmed that if they make numbers the game could be coming in a year or so.

Incidentally, you might consider doing a whole new entry for RtGII since it's TOTALLY different than this edition.
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I bit the minne' ball and pre-ordered the bundle...just couldn't pass up the freshened up versions of these old standards...as well as the Atlanta campaign...and for the record...I'm one of those "crusty old wargamers" who thought the newer counters were not so good...Imo they didn't really match the old school vibe of the maps...everyone has different tastes I guess. The main thing is that this awesome series keeps rolling on 20 years after the company that started it went belly up. Hopefully we get to Shiloh/Corinth/Iuka someday...gonna be a long year waiting for this bundle of greatness to arrive...rebel yells and huzzahs for all.
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This news has come to me late. Wow guys, the package is very exciting!
 
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garysax wrote:
^I agree completely, but they took endless shit for the "busy" counters from a lot of people so I get the move. It's disappointing to me but the crusty wargame crowd is what it is.
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Yeah, these are much improved in my opinion. I thought I liked the new ones until I actually played with the old ones. The info you needed on the new design was just too hard to find at a casual glace. These new ones are better.


I learned on the new style of counters and enjoyed them much, much, more than the old ones -- having the assault values super-scripted made them easy to locate rather than having it's only identify being it's location on the counter.

But this debate is long-since over. I'll adjust. I'm just glad the series is still alive and kicking and apparently in great hands.
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