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A very big thank you to Ling for offering this set to run to sate my desire to mod more and offer a very different lynch time, and also for providing the rules post.

So, this game will serve three purposes:

1. A 12 player game with different roles.
2. Variable dusk / dawn times.
3. Let's see if we can fill a game that runs before dawn in BGG time.

To that end:

WHY AM I AWAKE II?

An twelve-player, low-complexity game of Werewolf!

Good Roles:

Detective – Each night, the Detective will be given a non-repeating random alignment view of a Team Good player.

Prophet – May confirm with moderator in thread, and then ask a single yes/no question that the moderator will answer CORRECTLY.

Magician - In the initial dawn post, a list of possible game orders will be revealed. Each dawn, the Magician is given one of those actions as a possible game order for the next 24 hours. Possible actions include View, Protect, Brutal, etc.

5 Villagers - Ordinary villagers with no special powers.


Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill. There is no kill on Night 0. If there is a werewolf alive, the last night kill order will go through - even if the last person to place a night kill order has died since the order was given. (Example: Player A and B are werewolves. Player A selects a Night Kill target during the day, but is lynched. If Player B is still alive and has not put in a more recent Night Kill order, Player A's Night Kill order will be carried out.)
Each wolf has one attribute:
Jester Werewolf - Jester Werewolf will reveal as any other currently alive player (chosen at random by Cassy), regardless of why the Jester Werewolf dies.
Ancient Werewolf - Ancient Werewolf has a Parity value of 2 (if the game gets to a final three and the Ancient Werewolf is one of them, Team Evil wins).

Aura Seer - Each night, he may view a player. Evil Aura Seer gets their choice of: View for Evil, or View for Good Special. Evil Aura Seer will be informed to one random Werewolf. If the Evil Aura Seer is not present / does not give an order, they will receive a random negative view for "View for Good Special".

False Prophet - May false-confirm with moderator in thread, and then ask a single yes/no question that the moderator will answer INCORRECTLY.

Prophet / False Prophet Rules:
The Prophet and the False Prophet will both reveal as Prophet on death.
The questions that these two roles can ask must follow the following rules:
1. The questions cannot directly relate to either prophet. (Is Player X on my team?)
2. The questions cannot be made in such a way as to give the same answer regardless of who's asking. (Would the other prophet tell us that ..?)


Victory Conditions:

Good - All good players win if both werewolves are eliminated.

Evil - All evil players win if the wolves achieve parity: if at any time the number of wolves remaining equals the number of non-wolves remaining, evil wins. However, if one wolf is left with the hunter, then good wins.

Brutal Rules:

If the Brutal's target died BEFORE the Brutal Character, then the kill will be chosen at random from the player's own team so please keep your brutals updated. Parity will be checked after all processing is complete.

Lynch Rules:

Each day players vote for one player to be lynched. The player receiving the most votes is killed. If there is a tie between two or more players, the tied player with the longest held last vote is killed.

Lynch time is a random time between 5:00 and 5:30 AM BGG Time. Votes cast with the lynch time time-stamp are counted. Votes cast after this time are invalid. Votes made during the night phase are invalid.

All votes must conform to the Cassandra Vote Tally System rules. (Will be posted once the game starts). If all living players vote night fall it will speed up the dusk. If there is a tie in the lynch votes, it will be broken by longest held last vote.


Night Orders:

Wolves, Magician, and Aura Seer must all submit their night orders by Dawn. Dawn will be a random time between 6:00 and 6:30 AM BGG time. Players can do this by using the Cassandra Game Order system in the Cassandra Chat System.

If all living players (including those with out night actions) click on the 'Lock Game Actions' button it will speed up Dawn. This will only be considered if there is an early dusk due to nightfalling.

Role Reveal:

All roles will be revealed on death (regardless of method)(Full Role Reveal). Note that the Jester Werewolf will not reveal as a Werewolf.


Replacement / Posting Rules:

This is not a "Post For Your Life" game. However, anyone who does not communicate at least once during a Dawn - Dusk cycle will be put up for replacement. Valid communication includes:
Posting in the thread,
Talking in your Modchat in Cassandra, or
Geekmailing the moderator.
Exceptions will obviously be made for anyone that announces ahead of time that they will be away from the internet.
Players will be allowed to replace themselves (clicking on the replace icon indicates that you are near the internet - right?).

Please do not sign up for the game if you do not plan on being an active player. Thank you.
You are also required to show a proof of life prior to "12 hours before first dusk".
Please note that these are "bare minimums". The moderator has the right to hit the replace button in spite of your meeting the "one post per day" guideline if you are unresponsive to geekmails / modchat queries. This will not be done capriciously and will only be done after consultation with outside parties, to ensure objectivity.

Please don't post after the Dusk/Dawn deadline, even if the mod has not told you to stop posting. Warnings will be given for first offences, but repeated offences might have consequences.

Making out-of-game promises to other players in order to influence their actions in a game is against the rules, so is quoting something told to you by the moderator directly from your hidden modchat, unless the rules of a game specifically say otherwise or the moderator has given you explicit permission. Paraphrasing such things is usually allowed.

Personal attacks or offensive language will merit a warning. Second offense will merit a modkill. Granted, this is subjective, so I will always get a second opinion before acting. Regardless, I'm tired of the hostility and the occasional attitude.
Police yourselves, please.


META RULES:

1. Editing posts is discouraged, but in most cases, it will not elicit anything other than a "tsk, tsk" from another player. However, if you [vote nightfall] and then edit your post to cancel that vote, you will be modkilled. There are no second chances.
2. Deleting posts is considered very poor form. Unless you are deleting one of two identical posts, just let it go.
3. If you post game-changing information after the dusk/dawn time - for example, seer views, fake seer views, sorcerer views - you and a random member of your team will be modkilled. This is not negotiable.
A. This does not require the moderator to say "No posting." If dusk is at 4:00 and you post something that reflects 4:01, you are late.
B. If the moderator posts "No posting" at 4:00:15 and you post at 4:00:20, you have still posted after the no posting rule.
Accidentally continuing a conversation / posting a silly comment after the moderator has posted 'No posting' will not warrant any punishment (unless it is game-changing or repetitive).
It is YOUR responsibility to monitor for dusk/dawn.

Important Information:
Tiebreaker: longest held last vote
Lynch time: 5:00 - 5:30 AM BGG Time
Night Action Deadline: 6:00 - 6:30 AM BGG Time

Weekend Policy: This game will not run over the weekend.


Please let me know if you have any questions!

This game will start when full.

As an FYI, here's Snaak's "Guide to Playing Werewolf on BGG!"

Here is a Dictionary of terms that are used often in our BGG WW games: /wiki/page/BGG_Werewolf_PBF_Dictionary

Here is a (not all-inclusive) list of Roles that are commonly used here on the Geek: /wiki/page/BGG_Werewolf_PBF_Role_List
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To sign up for this game go to
http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1643...
 
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So, I'm cool with the lynch. How do people deal with the night phase, though?
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Conditional orders are always your friend.
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linguistfromhell wrote:
Conditional orders are always your friend.


Well, I figured that. Maybe I'm just too picky?
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TFang wrote:
linguistfromhell wrote:
Conditional orders are always your friend.


Well, I figured that. Maybe I'm just too picky?


Shrug. You could always make an effort to be around before dawn, like most of the players last game.

That's part of the specific challenge of the timeframe; to give Americans visibility on the challenges some of the other players face every game.
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You guys have the wrong time listed in Cassy, FYI.
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linguistfromhell wrote:
Shrug. You could always make an effort to be around before dawn, like most of the players last game.


That makes sense then, Rorab's aim in chat sounded a little different than that to me. I'm up at this time and around twice a week, but otherwise I'd treat it as an "inaccessible lynch" game.

I didn't realize until asking these questions missing lynch doesn't bother me much at all, but not being sure I'd have an in-timezone wolf buddy does. Weird bit of psychology there!

I really am a wolf. =)
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[vote TFang]
[Vote nightfall]
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It this starts the week of the third I'll have to drop because of starting my new job. But hoping it runs sooner
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Amekins wrote:
It this starts the week of the third I'll have to drop because of starting my new job. But hoping it runs sooner
yay for new job!
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These prophet guys remind me a riddle.
A question in logic - can the prophet ask something like: what would the mod say if the other prophet asked if rorab is on team good?
(I'm guessing the answer is no )
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Rorab grabbed my OP, but at some point in the game, I clarified ...

Prophet / False Prophet Rules:
The Prophet and the False Prophet will both reveal as Prophet on death.
The questions that these two roles can ask must follow the following rules:
1. The questions cannot directly relate to either prophet. (Is Player X on my team?)
2. The questions cannot be made in such a way as to give the same answer regardless of who's asking. (Would the other prophet tell us that ..?)

I would expect Rorab to include the same qualifiers.
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Amekins wrote:
It this starts the week of the third I'll have to drop because of starting my new job. But hoping it runs sooner


Congrats on the new job.
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Thanks guys!
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I just signed up on Cassandra.
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TFang wrote:
linguistfromhell wrote:
Shrug. You could always make an effort to be around before dawn, like most of the players last game.


That makes sense then, Rorab's aim in chat sounded a little different than that to me. I'm up at this time and around twice a week, but otherwise I'd treat it as an "inaccessible lynch" game.

I didn't realize until asking these questions missing lynch doesn't bother me much at all, but not being sure I'd have an in-timezone wolf buddy does. Weird bit of psychology there!

I really am a wolf. =)


Heh, I wanted this up for a few reasons. A possibly better lynch time for Australians and Brits, I like the roleset, and for people to maybe try out a lynch time where they aren't available. In terms of Night actions, all I can assert is what Ling has, in that conditionals would probably help heh. But it's just one of those things to figure out how to handle I guess
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linguistfromhell wrote:
Rorab grabbed my OP, but at some point in the game, I clarified ...

Prophet / False Prophet Rules:
The Prophet and the False Prophet will both reveal as Prophet on death.
The questions that these two roles can ask must follow the following rules:
1. The questions cannot directly relate to either prophet. (Is Player X on my team?)
2. The questions cannot be made in such a way as to give the same answer regardless of who's asking. (Would the other prophet tell us that ..?)

I would expect Rorab to include the same qualifiers.


Thanks Lingy, I've updated the OP accordingly
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Its cool, Rorab. I have learned about myself that I'm cool with a difficult to access lynch or floating dusk time, but not that kind of night unless it is the reverse of our usual game: I'm a rare american in a FLOOD of Euro timezone folks, one of which would be a wolf partner almost surely.

For me, this is like a night game with not enough night players to make up for my schedule. That's not on you. =)
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The_Rorab wrote:
Thanks Lingy, I've updated the OP accordingly
Sorry if this felt as though I was double-tapping you. I sent you my GM just before I saw Tomotz's question. Figured I'd post my initial ruling and hopefully, that would get the other players to give you the time to decide how to run with it.
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I just signed up on Cassandra.
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Bump! Cuz, if you're awake you might want to sign up! arrrh
 
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One more and we will start first thing next week with at least a 24 hour D1!
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