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http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/sep/29/nevada-supreme-court...

Essentially the court ruled that the concept is constitutional, but that they need a separate funding source than the public school fund.
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Mike Stiles
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Seems a really good solution on first glance;

People get their voucher options without beggaring the schools.
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The public schools will still ultimately get screwed. It's like when they say they're going to use lottery revenue to fund education. Schools don't suddenly get a windfall, they just move the money around.
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Erik17 wrote:
The public schools will still ultimately get screwed. It's like when they say they're going to use lottery revenue to fund education. Schools don't suddenly get a windfall, they just move the money around.


http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-98.h...

At $10,700 per student, the first people screwed are the students getting an inadequate education, taxpayers are the second ones getting screwed.

The schools are getting screwed in much the same way the mafia gets screwed when people fight back against extortion.
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Part of me wonders why old-fashioned private schools aren't good enough anymore. Most of the religious ones (and that's often a factor for people wanting to go this route) have pretty good financial aid, especially within the Catholic system.
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Part of me wonders why old-fashioned private schools aren't good enough anymore. Most of the religious ones (and that's often a factor for people wanting to go this route) have pretty good financial aid, especially within the Catholic system.


You can stand anywhere in this borough , throw a rock and you will hit a private school.

This area is an extreme example because of free market forces not in play elsewhere, but it cost about $300/month/kid to send our kids. The Catholic system was more, but they field sports teams and such. (Sports teams that do pretty darn well against the public schools, I might add.)

A private education is not exactly out of reach for poor families if markets are allowed to work.
 
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Koldfoot wrote:
windsagio wrote:
Part of me wonders why old-fashioned private schools aren't good enough anymore. Most of the religious ones (and that's often a factor for people wanting to go this route) have pretty good financial aid, especially within the Catholic system.


You can stand anywhere in this borough , throw a rock and you will hit a private school.

This area is an extreme example because of free market forces not in play elsewhere, but it cost about $300/month/kid to send our kids. The Catholic system was more, but they field sports teams and such. (Sports teams that do pretty darn well against the public schools, I might add.)

A private education is not exactly out of reach for poor families if markets are allowed to work.


We're agreeing seems like - and yet vouchers are required for people (presumably because they want more for their kids but don't want to pay for it)
 
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windsagio wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
windsagio wrote:
Part of me wonders why old-fashioned private schools aren't good enough anymore. Most of the religious ones (and that's often a factor for people wanting to go this route) have pretty good financial aid, especially within the Catholic system.


You can stand anywhere in this borough , throw a rock and you will hit a private school.

This area is an extreme example because of free market forces not in play elsewhere, but it cost about $300/month/kid to send our kids. The Catholic system was more, but they field sports teams and such. (Sports teams that do pretty darn well against the public schools, I might add.)

A private education is not exactly out of reach for poor families if markets are allowed to work.


We're agreeing seems like - and yet vouchers are required for people (presumably because they want more for their kids but don't want to pay for it)


I think we do agree, but vouchers assumes education is artificially high because of regulations, mandatory teacher's unions and such. Free markets work.

Plus, you are right. There is the democrat hand-out mentality in much of this country. There is also the democrat "parents are incompetent education is the role of government" mentality in much of the country.
 
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Well, out where I live, there are maybe 4 private schools within a 50-mile radius. Even up in OKC, there are far fewer private schools than one might expect.

The big issue is attendance. If private schools are the only option, are people required to spend money for their children to attend school? If it's private, then the state cannot require students to attend a set number of years or meet certain requirements for graduation.

And as the brother and father of teachers, plus years of experience, let me tell you the biggest factor, the one that eclipses all others, in the failure of public education:

Worthless parents.
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