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He could get a bunch of veterans charities a cool 6+ mil in short order by releasing his taxes but...

https://www.crowdpac.com/campaigns/74424/mr-trump-we-challen...

You know audits and stuff.
 
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Except pows and those with PTSD
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jmilum wrote:
Except pows and those with PTSD


Those aren't veterans, those are bitches who can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps
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Re: DJT loves veterans WRONGAWRY
cool "B" "as the TIDE!" STRONGER than 'dirtybesmirchmerchant'!"
 
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Are you sure this is true ?

http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-didnt-say-vets-with-ptsd-...
 
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jeremycobert wrote:


Glad to see you think Snopes is a valid place to check facts.
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wifwendell wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:


Glad to see you think Snopes is a valid place to check facts.


Well, you idiots have a list of sources you find acceptable, so when one on your list thinks you are stupid, why not shove it in your face?
 
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TheDashi wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:


Glad to see you think Snopes is a valid place to check facts.


Well, you idiots have a list of sources you find acceptable, so when one on your list thinks you are stupid, why not shove it in your face?


Ooh, touchy. I didn't anybody an idiot; Snopes is a very good web site.
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wifwendell wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:


Glad to see you think Snopes is a valid place to check facts.


Well, you idiots have a list of sources you find acceptable, so when one on your list thinks you are stupid, why not shove it in your face?


Ooh, touchy. I didn't anybody an idiot; Snopes is a very good web site.


Snopes WAS a very good site.
 
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TheDashi wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:


Glad to see you think Snopes is a valid place to check facts.


Well, you idiots have a list of sources you find acceptable, so when one on your list thinks you are stupid, why not shove it in your face?


When a site has "rumor has it" as part of its slogan, you should at least acknowledge that it may not all be news.
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xuzuthor wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:


Glad to see you think Snopes is a valid place to check facts.


Well, you idiots have a list of sources you find acceptable, so when one on your list thinks you are stupid, why not shove it in your face?


When a site has "rumor has it" as part of its slogan, you should at least acknowledge that it may not all be news.


Ah, I didn't get that the "rumor has it" was actually meant to disprove rumors. I have to admit that I haven't really looked at the site much.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:

Ok, I'll accept that it's just POWs he has issues with.
 
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Trump was asked this question:

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Good morning Mr. Trump. As you mentioned there is a tragic suicide epidemic among our veterans, among our military and their families. While the military and the V.A. are working on the problem, their efforts continue to fall short. There are a number of faith-based programs outside the DOD and the V.A., that are continuing to be successful in stopping suicide and divorce rates.

Spiritual fitness works on these types of problems. So my question for you is, when you become president, will you support and fund a more holistic approach to solve the problems and issues of veteran suicide, PTSD, TBI and other related military mental and behavioral health issues and will you take steps to restore the historic role of our Chaplains and the importance of spiritual fitness and spiritual resiliency programs?


Here is Trump's full quote:

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Yes I would. Look we need that so badly and when you ... when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it. And they see horror stories. They see events that you couldn’t see in a movie, nobody would believe it.

Now we need a mental health help and medical. And it’s one of the things that I think is least addressed and is one of the things that — like your question — one of the things that I hear the most about when I go around and talk to the veterans. So we’re going to have a very, very robust, level of performance having to do with mental health. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care.

You know when you hear the 22 suicides a day it’s a big part of your question. But when you hear the 22 suicides a day that should never be. That should never be. So we’re going to be addressing that very strongly and the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue when I take over and the V.A. is going to be fixed in so many ways but that’s going to be one of the ways we’re going to help.

And that’s in many respects going to be the number one thing we have to do. Because I think it’s really been left behind. OK? Thank you very much.


So obviously the source of contention is the first paragraph.

It does show that Trump doesn't fully get PTSD, and it is badly worded.

I do not feel he meant to say anything badly of veterans, but he should probably read a bit more about PTSD so he doesn't make those off the cuff gaffs in the future.

More details here:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/opinions/trump-comment-veteran...

Words matter so I am fine with my president over-preparing so as not to cause harm to a part of the population. This is definitely not Trump's worst mistake, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be brought up so as to dispute the false assertions he stated.

The issue is that to speak about a mental health issue requires a great deal of knowledge and/or empathy so it is easy to make these mistakes if merely going off common knowledge as that knowledge often does not give the entire picture.
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All this ignores the fact he could raise 6 mil for vets simply by releasing his returns, which are a thing thst exist.
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Terwox wrote:
jmilum wrote:
Except pows and those with PTSD


Those aren't veterans, those are bitches who can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps


Just like Trump did...
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pdoherty wrote:
Terwox wrote:
jmilum wrote:
Except pows and those with PTSD


Those aren't veterans, those are bitches who can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps


Just like Trump did...


Trump pulled hims3lf up by his daddy's teat.
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Shadrach wrote:
pdoherty wrote:
Terwox wrote:
jmilum wrote:
Except pows and those with PTSD


Those aren't veterans, those are bitches who can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps


Just like Trump did...


Trump pulled hims3lf up by his daddy's teat.


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toku42 wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
pdoherty wrote:
Terwox wrote:
jmilum wrote:
Except pows and those with PTSD


Those aren't veterans, those are bitches who can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps


Just like Trump did...


Trump pulled hims3lf up by his daddy's teat.




I know, but I couldn't resist giving people that mental image.
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If Trump was on Celebrity Apprentice he'd have to fire himself for walking away from an opportunity to raise 6+ million for his charity.
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TheDashi wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:


Glad to see you think Snopes is a valid place to check facts.


Well, you idiots have a list of sources you find acceptable, so when one on your list thinks you are stupid, why not shove it in your face?


Ooh, touchy. I didn't anybody an idiot; Snopes is a very good web site.


Snopes WAS a very good site.


Until when? What changed?
 
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