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Just look at the title of these articles:

Columbia Student: I Was Reported to Gender-Based Misconduct Office for Calling Myself Handsome

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/03/columbia-student-i-was-rep...

"Now I've graduated from Columbia University, I am finally ready to reveal a dark and shameful secret I have kept buried for almost two years. I ... committed 'gender misconduct' while a student...

...the incident happened in his Chinese class. He was supposed to say something in Chinese, and that's what he picked. The professor later told him she thought it was a funny remark, but one student had complained. That was just the beginning:

Later that day, my advising dean emailed me to say, 'The University's Gender-Based Misconduct Office contacted us because they received a complaint about your behavior towards your Elementary Chinese II professor. It is important we meet to discuss this as soon as possible.'

...an administrator attempted to persuade him to abandon his micro-aggressive ways.

...It's little occurrences like this that inspire concern about the state of free speech on college campuses."

(Colleges have no sense of humor about even the tiniest things.)

...

However, this is the story that I read about elsewhere:

Tennessee Student Accused of Sexual Harassment Because He Wrote Instructor's Name Wrong

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/04/u-tennessee-student-accuse...

For a recent quiz "one of the questions was, 'What is your lab instructor's name? (if you don't remember, make something good up).' ... (The student) couldn't remember her name. So he wrote in 'Sarah Jackson.' 'I picked a random generic name.'"

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"The result is that you gave the name of Sarah Jackson, who is a lingerie and nude model. That result meets with Title IX definition of sexual harassment. The grade of zero stands and will not be changed."

"But 'Sarah Jackson' is apparently the name of a pornographic model. When Wahlbon got the quiz back, his answer was marked 'inappropriate' and he had received a grade of zero."

"He could be marked down for answering that specific question incorrectly, but he shouldn't receive a zero -- and he absolutely shouldn't have to worry that he inadvertently committed sexual harassment."

1. They asked him to "make something good up."

2. Sarah Jackson? This is famous model's name? A lingerie model?

3. I would mention "innocent until proven guilty" but this whole situation is completely crazy.



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My concern would be how easy those questions are on the "quiz". Is this University level? More like something a 12 year old would have to answer.
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I know every old person has said this (I'm 39 so I'm not old but when I feel old for saying this) but I fear for this generation and this country.
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My first question for the instructor would be "How long you been killing kittens in the name of Sarah Jackson?"
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I would have responded-

How did YOU know she was a nude model, hmmmm?

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Darilian wrote:
I would have responded-

How did YOU know she was a nude model, hmmmm?

Darilian


Yeah, how does he know he wasn't talking about the early First Lady Sarah Jackson?

Sounds like the instructor might have his mind in the gutter.
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Was that a class for 10 year olds? Is US education really that poor?
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Yeah puzzled by the level of questions.

But also very puzzled by the fact that writing down your Lab instructor's name (or making something good up) is something that gets asked let alone marked / used to judge your results.
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andyl wrote:
Yeah puzzled by the level of questions.

But also very puzzled by the fact that writing down your Lab instructor's name (or making something good up) is something that gets asked let alone marked / used to judge your results.


It might have been asked to try to assess if there is a grade difference between students with different lab instructors, while giving students a bonus on a quiz with few questions.

Or it might just be a heavy handed way of trying to get students to learn their lab instructor's names.
 
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DavidDearlove wrote:
Was that a class for 10 year olds? Is US education really that poor?



Labs in the U.S. are usually low-credit courses (1 or 2 credits), with very little homework, and are principally based around in-class lab work and lab write-ups that are handed in. This quiz might have been a simple way to take attendance while making sure students did the readings.

Strange that you would judge the education system of an entire nation based on your knowledge of three questions on a Tennessee lab instructor's quiz.
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galad2003 wrote:
I know every old person has said this (I'm 39 so I'm not old but when I feel old for saying this) but I fear for this generation and this country.
Rest easy: Your parents' generation said the same thing about you.
 
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Reason.com didn't prove that U.S. colleges have gone crazy. Rather, *you* cited those select examples and tried to broadly paint all U.S. colleges with the same damning brush strokes.

Shame on you!

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fightcitymayor wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
I know every old person has said this (I'm 39 so I'm not old but when I feel old for saying this) but I fear for this generation and this country.
Rest easy: Your parents' generation said the same thing about you.


Which is why I said every old person has said this. Thanks for saying what I said. thumbsup
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fightcitymayor wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
I know every old person has said this (I'm 39 so I'm not old but when I feel old for saying this) but I fear for this generation and this country.
Rest easy: Your parents' generation said the same thing about you.


Probably the Neanderthals complained about those Cro-Magnon whipper-snappers and their fancy knapped flint hand axes and always talking using that fancy expanded vocabulary. Why, in our day, "Ug, get off my cave lawn" was all the words we needed.
 
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tmcvey wrote:
fightcitymayor wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
I know every old person has said this (I'm 39 so I'm not old but when I feel old for saying this) but I fear for this generation and this country.
Rest easy: Your parents' generation said the same thing about you.


Probably the Neanderthals complained about those Cro-Magnon whipper-snappers and their fancy knapped flint hand axes and always talking using that fancy expanded vocabulary. Why, in our day, "Ug, get off my cave lawn" was all the words we needed.


They aren't called Cro-Magnons in paleontology anymore. It is European Early Modern Humans.
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galad2003 wrote:
fightcitymayor wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
I know every old person has said this (I'm 39 so I'm not old but when I feel old for saying this) but I fear for this generation and this country.
Rest easy: Your parents' generation said the same thing about you.


Which is why I said every old person has said this. Thanks for saying what I said. thumbsup


And get off my lawn!!!

*shaking cane*

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And it gets weirder.

Quote:
University of Tennessee officials are investigating a claim of sexual harassment after reports surfaced online that a student received a zero on a geology quiz for answering a question about his lab instructor's name with that of a semifamous lingerie model.

Quote:
Meanwhile, a Twitter account that claimed to be associated with the Anonymous hacker collective said the group had shut down the university's website, utk.edu, in support of the student. The Twitter account, @UTKFree, said the group had caused one outage already and planned a second.

Simsen said the university website has not suffered any disruptions.


http://archive.knoxnews.com/news/local/ut-investigating-sexu...
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DavidDearlove wrote:
Was that a class for 10 year olds? Is US education really that poor?


Geology 101... Rocks for Jocks
 
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DavidDearlove wrote:
Was that a class for 10 year olds? Is US education really that poor?

It's the University of Tennessee. Like all SEC schools, they are far more concerned about their football teams than education.
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Columbia Student: I Was Reported to Gender-Based Misconduct Office for Calling Myself Handsome

"Reported". Anyone can report anything. So we are to conclude that "U.S. colleges have gone crazy" because one student "reported" something innocuous, resulting in no action?

Tennessee Student Accused of Sexual Harassment Because He Wrote Instructor's Name Wrong

This is more ridiculous, but still, there are hundreds of thousands of college instructors in the US. If one of them is a moron, that hardly proves that US colleges have gone crazy. You can't prove much by anecdote. I can give anecdotes of US college instructors actively harassing their female students, that's still likely much more common than this sort of thing.
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Some crazy recent stories from high school or junior high:

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"Dad Asks Cops to Intervene in Daughter's Sexting. They Arrest Him for Child Porn."

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/11/dad-asks-cops-to-intervene...

"...dad has been convicted on child pornography charges and placed on the sex offender registry. This, despite the judge understanding exactly why the man ... held onto the images."

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"Connecticut football coach fired for making kid run laps after he allegedly bullied fellow teammate"

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/10/06/connecticut-footb...

I thought bullying was supposed to be a big deal that is supposed to be confronted. But all punishment for bullying is also bullying?

(Arguing with a government bureaucrat is like arguing with Nomad from the "Changling" episode except you're the one who self-destructs. And people wonder why soldiers get tired of seeing friends die under crazy rules of engagement.)

...

Imagine being an immigrant and trying to understand crazy American customs, laws, and punishments that most Americans can't even understand...
 
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sikeospi wrote:
Some crazy recent stories from high school or junior high:

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"Dad Asks Cops to Intervene in Daughter's Sexting. They Arrest Him for Child Porn."

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/11/dad-asks-cops-to-intervene...

"...dad has been convicted on child pornography charges and placed on the sex offender registry. This, despite the judge understanding exactly why the man ... held onto the images."

The father in question should simply have carried his daughter's phone to the police department and let them download the images. (Apparently, his intent was to stop the teenage guy from sexting with his daughter.)

In either case, it's apparent that Australia's laws currently are written so that one could unintentionally indict him-/herself if he/she did what this father did.


sikeospi wrote:
"Connecticut football coach fired for making kid run laps after he allegedly bullied fellow teammate"

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/10/06/connecticut-footb...

I thought bullying was supposed to be a big deal that is supposed to be confronted. But all punishment for bullying is also bullying?

(Arguing with a government bureaucrat is like arguing with Nomad from the "Changling" episode except you're the one who self-destructs. And people wonder why soldiers get tired of seeing friends die under crazy rules of engagement.)

Except in this case, the coach punished the player for *alleged* bullying and denied that player a hearing to actually confirm and verify the veracity of the allegation(s) against him. In essence, the coach had acted with all due prejudice without first properly investigating the matter.


 
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Wow! Now that is pretty crazy right there. That is an extremely common name. For the instructor to know and reference it to a porn model is more telling.
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Apparently Reason.com tagged the college articles:

http://reason.com/tags/college

"CUNY Prof Accused of Sexual Harassment Because His Syllabus Says Effort Is 10% of Grade"

"Sierra College Feminists Will Hand Out Harassment Citations to Students Who Whistle, Honk, Shout, Whisper, Say Things"

"University Disinvites Sheriff David Clarke for Disagreeing with Black Lives Matter, Lies About It"

"University of Michigan Will Spend Millions to Monitor Students’ Cultural Sensitivity Progress"

"UVA Prof 'Agrees' to Leave of Absence After Criticizing Black Lives Matter"

"UCL Provides Trigger Warnings for Archaeology Students Who Are Afraid of Bones"

"Offended Cornell Students Freak Out After Football Coach Tweets Sombrero Picture"

"Lionel Shriver Praises Cultural Appropriation, Attacks 'Super-Sensitivity' -- While Wearing a Sombrero"

(What about the golden sombrero, the term for when a player strikes out four times in a single game?)

"Northern Michigan University Might Have the 'Most Dangerous' Speech Code Ever" ("Students are prohibited from talking about their suicidal thoughts with others. ... Students who are experiencing suicidal thoughts should talk about them -- it's the first step toward getting help.")
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