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Ferdinand Marques
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There are a number of similar cards to both players, as Bear Trap and Quagmire. Does anyone have a list of others?
 
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Jacob Williams
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Decolonization and Colonial Rear Guards

Containment and Brezhnev Doctrine

To start with...
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Alex Drazen
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Lone Gunman :: CIA Created

OAS Founded :: Liberation Theology (not quite equal - OAS is 2 in the Americas, LT is 3 in Central America only)

Nasser :: Sadat Expels Soviets (not quite equal - Sadat removes all USSR influence from Egypt and gives the USA +1; Nasser only removes half of the US influence, but gives the USSR +2).

OPEC :: Alliance for Progress (not quite equal in that OPEC is recurring, and OPEC is for oil-producing countries in the Middle East plus Venezuela, whereas AFP is for battlegrounds in the Americas)

Nixon Plays the China Card :: Cultural Revolution (but Nixon scores 2 VP, Cultural Revolution only 1 VP)
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Mikhail Dektyarev
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Cultural Revolution has 2 counterparts - Nixon and Ussuri

Also some more symmetric pairs:

KAL-007 - Glasnost

Socialistic Governments - Eastern European Unrest (though not exactly symmetric)

De Gaulle - John Paul II
 
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Pedro Estêvão
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"Soviets shoot down KAL-007" and "Glasnost" are kind of similar. The prerequisite is different but they both:

- Change DEFCON (albeit in oposite direction)
- Give the respective player 2 VP
- Allow the player to "place Influence or attempt Realignments as if they played an Ops card"

Tactically, they're use is also quite similar. If the pre-requisite is met, they are great headlines for the respective players and a real pain in the butt for opponents to have them in their hands.

But if it is not met, it's the other way around. KAL-007 is great for the USSR player to play influence in AR1 without worrying about giving the US a coup chance, while Glasnost can be used by the US player to coup a battleground when DEFCON is at 2.
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Alex Drazen
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Cultural Revolution has 2 counterparts - Nixon and Ussuri


Ussuri is not quite a mirror card the way Nixon is. Ussuri has the bonus effect of +4 influence in Asia if the US has the China Card, and receives the China Card face up if they don't have it (Nixon and Cultural Revolution receive it face down, and their bonus is VP, not influence).

Edit: apparently, I have not played in a while... could have sworn CR was face down, but I guess not
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Mikhail Dektyarev
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alexdrazen wrote:
Cultural Revolution receive it face down

Cultural Revolution gives it face up, which increases similarity with Ussuri and decreases with Nixon.
(also, both Ussuri and Cultural are 3-op)
 
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Mikhail Dektyarev
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Also, one more pair: Marshall and Comecon use exactly the same mechanic except number of placed influence.
 
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Michael Valentine

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I think of Puppet Governments as a poor man's Destal.
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R D
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Few things worse than as the US seeing Puppet Govts come out turn 7 when everything is locked down
 
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Kris Wei
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Common:
Decolonisation - Colonial Rear Guards
Bruzhnev Doctrine - Containment
Lone Gunman - CIA Created
Quagmire - Bear Trap

Uncommon:
We'll Bury You - KAL 007
OPEC - Alliance of Progress
De-Stalinisation - Voice of America

Rare:
Flower Power - NATO
Both underestimated 4 op continuous event, provide vps and make great effect if evented in first turn it appears.

U-2 Incident - An Evil Empire
Both 3op card with basic 1vp, sometimes more than 1vp, usually evented as the way to kill the game.

Legendary:
Arms Race - One Small Step
Both vp-related key Mid-War event, with condition, almost must event if able, do not affect the board, usually USSR plays Arms Race more, while US plays OSS more.

However, it's a meaningless title so I'm just writing jokes
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Mikhail Dektyarev
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sankt wrote:
We'll Bury You - KAL 007

Obvious pair to KAL007 is Glasnost (both affects defcon, provide ops if dependent on some condition, and both give 2 VP).

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De-Stalinisation - Voice of America

As MichaelVal said, Puppet is much more like Destal. VoA is not similar to Destal in any sense (neither are Flower Power and NATO, or Arms and OSS).

And you definitely missed De Gaulle/Pope, that are definitely symmetric.
 
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