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And I've already uploaded them to the geek files.
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I don't see the geekfiles yet. Do you have a link to the source?
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Yeah I guess the moderator didn't validate the file yet.

http://www.zmangames.com/uploads/4/7/1/7/47170931/en-pandemi...
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ghostbusterbob wrote:
I don't see the geekfiles yet. Do you have a link to the source?


You can find all ZMAN downloadable rules here:

http://www.zmangames.com/downloadable-files.html
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ghostbusterbob wrote:
I don't see the geekfiles yet. Do you have a link to the source?
Really? How about Z-man Games' website? The files won't be allowed by the GeekMods - they aren't posted by the publisher (though if GShock112 has their permission it'll be OK, it'll just take a little time to get approved)
 
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I'm not sure you need permission from the publisher: the publisher himself made them public, I just "shared" the file.

By the way... I now understand why the continents have 2 identical sides. On one side you now put the sticker for the purple infection and you can play the standard game on the side without purple. Brilliant.

The rules don't seem too complicated but surely they add 2 more depth layers to the game. The extra die is not just an infection... and the hot spots make the epidemic a LOT more complicated (it's the end of the days of almost free rerolls).
 
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The new roles are great! I can't wait.
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GShock112 wrote:
I'm not sure you need permission from the publisher: the publisher himself made them public, I just "shared" the file.
Copyright still exists on the rules, despite them being published on Z-Man's website. BGG being a commercial entity, publishing Copyrighted content is "challenging". Here's what the web page where you uploaded the files says
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I've highlighted the key phrase that you may have overlooked in your desire to contribute to the community. Unless Z-Man's website specifically states that you have such rights, I think you'll find that you don't have them.
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Thanks for the rules link... More excited now!
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The rules make me even more excited. Looks to shake up the base game a bit. The hot zones look really interesting and hard.
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@mc even though I know it works the way you described, it doesn't make any sense, especially considering everyone (including me) can post here the link to the ZMan DL page which is basically the same as posting the file here.

Anyway, assuming we've all read the rules... we could discuss about them in anticipation of the most certain gameplay video to appear on YouTube... hopefully tomorrow.
 
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GShock112 wrote:
@mc even though I know it works the way you described, it doesn't make any sense, especially considering everyone (including me) can post here the link to the ZMan DL page which is basically the same as posting the file here.

Sorry, I disagree. Good intentions, but publisher still has final say on where and how their files can be distributed. And posting a link to another server is definitely not the same as hosting the file elsewhere and redirecting traffic away from the publisher's site.
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This looks pretty good, but I wish they had listed the new events in addition to the new roles.
 
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They have.
The purple dice are an event by themselves because with some rolls you get an extra die to infect and with some other roll you take out a die from the bag and put it in the box which changes everything: one less die to roll (closer to defeat) and changes PERMANENTLY the % of grabbing the die colors.

In other words 12-12-12-12 ... when you get 12-12-11-12 everything changes and you must take that into account.

... and that's on top of the hot spots which I haven't studied yet (because I feel sad I can't get the game before the end of november so I'm trying not to think about it)
 
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Is this an error in the rules?

On P.8 in the example at the top, it says:
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John spends 2 Hot Zone dice with Hazardous Sample
results in his region to add +2 to his roll for a cure.
After finding the cure, he advances the infection rate
syringe
by 2.
(emphasis mine)

The illustration accompanying this shows the Outbreak Rate syringe being moved.

Am I seeing that or reading it incorrectly?
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GShock112 wrote:
They have.
The purple dice are an event by themselves because with some rolls you get an extra die to infect and with some other roll you take out a die from the bag and put it in the box which changes everything: one less die to roll (closer to defeat) and changes PERMANENTLY the % of grabbing the die colors.

In other words 12-12-12-12 ... when you get 12-12-11-12 everything changes and you must take that into account.

... and that's on top of the hot spots which I haven't studied yet (because I feel sad I can't get the game before the end of november so I'm trying not to think about it)


Events are the yellow cards you buy with +'s
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GShock112 wrote:
@mc even though I know it works the way you described, it doesn't make any sense, especially considering everyone (including me) can post here the link to the ZMan DL page which is basically the same as posting the file here.
It matters not a jot whether it makes sense to you or not: they are the rules of BGG and they are the rules that will ultimately determine whether the rules that you uploaded will get approved (they won't). BGG has to respect Copyright (so does everyone, there's nothing special about BGG, but you know what I mean) or the whole thing will come crashing down around Aldie's ears.
 
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GShock112 wrote:
Anyway, assuming we've all read the rules... we could discuss about them in anticipation of the most certain gameplay video to appear on YouTube... hopefully tomorrow.
I am expecting the game to get a lot harder, hopefully not to the point of becoming luck dependant (yes, yes, I know it's a dice game), so it's going to be interesting to see how much of an effect on the game the new roles will have and whether they make the base game unplayable
 
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Insta-buy for me, just based on custom freakin' dice with special effects
 
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MrSims wrote:
On P.8 in the example at the top, it says:
Quote:
John spends 2 Hot Zone dice with Hazardous Sample
results in his region to add +2 to his roll for a cure.
After finding the cure, he advances the infection rate
syringe
by 2.
(emphasis mine)

The illustration accompanying this shows the Outbreak Rate syringe being moved.

The rules are correct, but the illustration is wrong. It should show the Infection Rate syringe advancing 2 spaces. I'll notify the publisher. Thanks.

EDIT: according to the publisher, the illustration in the printed rules included with the game is correct; an older digital version was mistakenly uploaded to their site. The correct version is now available for download.
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Tom Lehmann wrote:
MrSims wrote:
On P.8 in the example at the top, it says:
Quote:
John spends 2 Hot Zone dice with Hazardous Sample
results in his region to add +2 to his roll for a cure.
After finding the cure, he advances the infection rate
syringe
by 2.
(emphasis mine)

The illustration accompanying this shows the Outbreak Rate syringe being moved.

The rules are correct, but the illustration is wrong. It should show the Infection Rate syringe advancing 2 spaces. I'll notify the publisher. Thanks.


Thanks to YOU for being involved! I always feel good about a game when the designer seems to monitor the BGG forums for rules questions.

FWIW, I was sure enough in my own mind that I also posted the question via Z-Man's website contact form, but thanks again for your attention, sir.
 
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Tom Lehmann wrote:

The rules are correct, but the illustration is wrong. It should show the Infection Rate syringe advancing 2 spaces. I'll notify the publisher. Thanks.


What's your favorite of the new roles?
 
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MentatYP wrote:
GShock112 wrote:
@mc even though I know it works the way you described, it doesn't make any sense, especially considering everyone (including me) can post here the link to the ZMan DL page which is basically the same as posting the file here.

Sorry, I disagree. Good intentions, but publisher still has final say on where and how their files can be distributed. And posting a link to another server is definitely not the same as hosting the file elsewhere and redirecting traffic away from the publisher's site.


A secondary consideration might be that if we merely LINK to the file as posted on the publisher's website, then those that follow the link later would likely get any newer version of the file, should edits be made.

If we upload a copy here, legal issues aside, and edits are made, then the copy here is outdated.

Seems simpler if we just link to the file.

For clarity, I also believe the publisher's rights are the primary concern and must be respected at any rate.
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Yes it's wonderful when you see the DEVs showing up to answer questions and further clarify the rules.

Page 4 when it says "drawn" it should be "draw" (twice).

Can't wait to get this expansion... too bad Nov20 is so far away.
 
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Tom Lehmann wrote:

The rules are correct, but the illustration is wrong. It should show the Infection Rate syringe advancing 2 spaces. I'll notify the publisher. Thanks.


The rules have now been updated. An "older" file was in the "upload to website" folder instead of the correct rulebook file. Sorry about the mixup.
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