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How is the Dirty Cheat ability of the Outlaw used in a Quick draw game with 3 players?

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Stephen Gibson
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noom777 wrote:
How is the Dirty Cheat ability of the Outlaw used in a Quick draw game with 3 players?

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It works the same way it normally does, during the draw phase, after everyone has played their stack of cards, you can use dirty cheat and play a card.

Let me know if you're still confused about this!
 
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And you reveal it with your first card or with the second in a 3 player free for all ?
Do you count that card's RN?
 
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noom777 wrote:
And you reveal it with your first card or with the second in a 3 player free for all ?
Do you count that card's RN?


No no, dirty cheat allows you to play a card DURING the draw phase, after everyone has put their cards face down.

So, like this:

1. Everyone places their cards face down, including you.
2. You state that you are going to use Dirty Cheat.
3. You deduct 2 EP for doing so.
4. You pick a spell, and say who it is targeting (RN does not matter).
5. Apply the FX of that spell to your target, EXCEPT for DMG.

So if you dirty cheated with earth, you'd heal 2 HP. If you dirty cheated with ice, you'd reduce your target's EP by 2.
 
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So with this ability it is possible to make it impossible for someone to pay for his spell if you hit them with Ice?
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noom777 wrote:
So with this ability it is possible to make it impossible for someone to pay for his spell if you hit them with Ice?
Awesome!


Yes actually!
 
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ssgibson wrote:
noom777 wrote:
And you reveal it with your first card or with the second in a 3 player free for all ?
Do you count that card's RN?


No no, dirty cheat allows you to play a card DURING the draw phase, after everyone has put their cards face down.

So, like this:

1. Everyone places their cards face down, including you.
2. You state that you are going to use Dirty Cheat.
3. You deduct 2 EP for doing so.
4. You pick a spell, and say who it is targeting (RN does not matter).
5. Apply the FX of that spell to your target, EXCEPT for DMG.

So if you dirty cheated with earth, you'd heal 2 HP. If you dirty cheated with ice, you'd reduce your target's EP by 2.


What about if multiple players play as the outlaw and cheat at the same time?

Would we not check RN at this point to see which cheated card resolves first?
 
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Good question!

Well, unless you specifically said at the same time "I want to use cheat" one person was technically saying they wanted to cheat before the other. The first person to say they want to cheat would play and resolve their spell first, regardless of RN.

It'll be very rare that two Outlaws want to cheat at the same time, but it can happen, for sure.

If you find you want it a bit more strict, I'd let people roll to see who gets to cheat first. I would not do it based on RN.
 
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