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Indeed, there is hardly any public person in America today who has more exemplified the “earthly nature” (“flesh” in the King James and the literal Greek) that Paul urges the Colossians to shed: “sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, and greed, which is idolatry” (3:5). This is an incredibly apt summary of Trump’s life to date. Idolatry, greed, and sexual immorality are intertwined in individual lives and whole societies. Sexuality is designed to be properly ordered within marriage, a relationship marked by covenant faithfulness and profound self-giving and sacrifice. To indulge in sexual immorality is to make oneself and one’s desires an idol. That Trump has been, his whole adult life, an idolater of this sort, and a singularly unrepentant one, should have been clear to everyone.

And therefore it is completely consistent that Trump is an idolater in many other ways. He has given no evidence of humility or dependence on others, let alone on God his Maker and Judge. He wantonly celebrates strongmen and takes every opportunity to humiliate and demean the vulnerable. He shows no curiosity or capacity to learn. He is, in short, the very embodiment of what the Bible calls a fool.

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Most Christians who support Trump have done so with reluctant strategic calculation, largely based on the president’s power to appoint members of the Supreme Court. Important issues are indeed at stake, including the right of Christians and adherents of other religions to uphold their vision of sexual integrity and marriage even if they are in the cultural minority.

But there is a point at which strategy becomes its own form of idolatry—an attempt to manipulate the levers of history in favor of the causes we support. Strategy becomes idolatry, for ancient Israel and for us today, when we make alliances with those who seem to offer strength—the chariots of Egypt, the vassal kings of Rome—at the expense of our dependence on God who judges all nations, and in defiance of God’s manifest concern for the stranger, the widow, the orphan, and the oppressed. Strategy becomes idolatry when we betray our deepest values in pursuit of earthly influence. And because such strategy requires capitulating to idols and princes and denying the true God, it ultimately always fails.

Enthusiasm for a candidate like Trump gives our neighbors ample reason to doubt that we believe Jesus is Lord. They see that some of us are so self-interested, and so self-protective, that we will ally ourselves with someone who violates all that is sacred to us—in hope, almost certainly a vain hope given his mendacity and record of betrayal, that his rule will save us.


http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/october-web-only/sp...

A rather cogent and logical piece on why Evangelicals should turn their back on Trump. This sentiment is growing so fast that Pence is being dispatched to try to stem it

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pence-tries-to-stem-evangelical-r...

Hard to see how he will argue against the point brought up here.
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It's hard to see how he will argue against the point brought up here.


No, I'm afraid it isn't.

"But Hillary!!!"
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Fantastic, thanks for sharing.

Stuff like continues to make me question what I must do on November 8th. I cannot NOT vote, so I have to do something.

I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact. But can I or should I vote for Trump? (And yes, those are my only options being that any other vote is completely wasted).

The joke around here in the office is for all of us to vote for one of our firm's partners as a "write-in" - he would do an immensely better job than any of the current candidates.
 
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I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact.


I think that's part of your joke, but that it's 'obvious' you can't vote for her is probably something worth thinking about ><
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I know that a large majority of Evangelicals support Trump and that Christianity Today is more an Evangelical magazine than a mainline Protestant one, but I'm still worried that the overlap in the Evangelical-Trump-supporter/Christianity-Today-reader Venn diagram is rather small.

The author articulates the argument really well, though. Hopefully it reaches some folks.
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I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact. But can I or should I vote for Trump? (And yes, those are my only options being that any other vote is completely wasted).


Sure, vote for Trump. I'm sure a guy that thinks that an appropriate compliment for a 10-year old is a promise that he'll be dating her in 10-years (said not to her face but to other idiots). What kind of insane person does that anyway?

Also really? Your only choice is to vote Hillary or Trump? Right. I'm not voting for either of them.
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Personally, I won't vote for anyone I think shouldn't be president. That eliminates both major party candidates from contention. Casting a vote for what I believe in isn't a waste.
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Personally, I won't vote for anyone I think shouldn't be president. That eliminates both major party candidates from contention. Casting a vote for what I believe in isn't a waste.


If more people realized that voting for someone other than one of two candidates was a viable option, we might actually have a viable third party in this country. Instead we see people who call themselves witnesses for Christ who will vote Trump. Wonderful.
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“On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

“Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

“I did,” said Ford. “It is.”

“So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t the people get rid of the lizards?”

“It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

“You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

“Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

“But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

“Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in.”
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“On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

“Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

“I did,” said Ford. “It is.”

“So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t the people get rid of the lizards?”

“It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

“You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

“Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

“But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

“Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in.”


Ha! I saw that page of Hitchhiker's recently posted. Very timely.
 
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Instead we see people who call themselves witnesses for Christ who will vote Trump. Wonderful.


If Christ wielded a nail bat, wore a brown shirt, and tried to vilify his own people, these people wouldn't budge.

It only goes to show their beliefs are more guidelines.

 
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Instead we see people who call themselves witnesses for Christ who will vote Trump. Wonderful.


If Christ wielded a nail bat, wore a brown shirt, and tried to vilify his own people, these people wouldn't budge.

It only goes to show their beliefs are more guidelines.

On the contrary, for both Christian Supremacists and Dominionists of the Religious Far Right, their deviant belief systems obligate them to philosophically walk softly but carry a nail bat, surreptitiously wear a brown shirt, and vilify non-Christians and Christians whose political and religious beliefs run counter to theirs.


 
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I know that a large majority of Evangelicals support Trump and that Christianity Today is more an Evangelical magazine than a mainline Protestant one, but I'm still worried that the overlap in the Evangelical-Trump-supporter/Christianity-Today-reader Venn diagram is rather small.

The author articulates the argument really well, though. Hopefully it reaches some folks.


As long as the cross section thst reads it includes a lot of preachers, it will have an impact.
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chrisnd wrote:

I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact.


I think that's part of your joke, but that it's 'obvious' you can't vote for her is probably something worth thinking about ><


No. I refuse to consider it.

Despite the fact that my party was highjacked by an Orange-headed Assclown and racists assholes like my brother-in-law, I cannot actively vote against it. I can choose not to cast a vote "FOR" it, but I don't think that I could actively cast a vote for the diametrically opposed party - not on a national ticket, at least.

So, it really isn't a joke (except for the fact that I keep saying it). Instead, it is sort of me resigning myself to the fact that she is probably going to win, but refusing to actually "help" the situation along by violating my principals. I cannot cast a vote for Hillary.

However, bribes that contain lots of money or many games to add to my collection may make me reconsider. I am a whore for new games...
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she2 wrote:
chrisnd wrote:


I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact. But can I or should I vote for Trump? (And yes, those are my only options being that any other vote is completely wasted).


Sure, vote for Trump. I'm sure a guy that thinks that an appropriate compliment for a 10-year old is a promise that he'll be dating her in 10-years (said not to her face but to other idiots). What kind of insane person does that anyway?

Also really? Your only choice is to vote Hillary or Trump? Right. I'm not voting for either of them.


As I have stated numerous times, I think that Trump is a Asshat/Assclown/Orange-headed fucknut. However, what reasonable option do I honestly have? Neither Johnson nor Stein are really my kind of politicians, and nothing I do for either of them will push them above 15% required for "real" recognition.

So whereas you may think I have a "viable" choice, I really don't.
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chrisnd wrote:
Fantastic, thanks for sharing.

Stuff like continues to make me question what I must do on November 8th. I cannot NOT vote, so I have to do something.

I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact. But can I or should I vote for Trump? (And yes, those are my only options being that any other vote is completely wasted).

The joke around here in the office is for all of us to vote for one of our firm's partners as a "write-in" - he would do an immensely better job than any of the current candidates.


NOOOOOOOOO!

You can abstain from voting for the presidency while still voting down ticket. You could vote for Stein or Johnson or write someone in like McCain suggested. Is it meaningless to register your preference for a third party or is it a signal to the two main parties about your objection to their methods and the need to be more reflective of a broader electorate.

Don't like Hillary? Please for God's sake don't vote Trump. America is great. It doesn't need more nuclear nations in the world with whom to contend, or an expansion of laws to make suing news organizations easier, or a freer hand with torture, or less protection for civil servants so their ranks can be packed with party loyalists at will, or trade protectionism or isolationism.

Trump is worse than a demagogue. He isn't simply wrong, he's militantly ignorant about security issues, economics and all of our civil rights.
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chrisnd wrote:
windsagio wrote:
chrisnd wrote:

I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact.


I think that's part of your joke, but that it's 'obvious' you can't vote for her is probably something worth thinking about ><


No. I refuse to consider it.

Despite the fact that my party was highjacked by an Orange-headed Assclown and racists assholes like my brother-in-law, I cannot actively vote against it. I can choose not to cast a vote "FOR" it, but I don't think that I could actively cast a vote for the diametrically opposed party - not on a national ticket, at least.

So, it really isn't a joke (except for the fact that I keep saying it). Instead, it is sort of me resigning myself to the fact that she is probably going to win, but refusing to actually "help" the situation along by violating my principals. I cannot cast a vote for Hillary.

However, bribes that contain lots of money or many games to add to my collection may make me reconsider. I am a whore for new games...


I would pause and consider if Hillary really is diametricly opposed to a lot of pre-insanity conservwtive values (the answer is no) the reason Bill did so well is he wasn't far off from the Regan era Republicans.
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chrisnd wrote:
windsagio wrote:
chrisnd wrote:

I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact.


I think that's part of your joke, but that it's 'obvious' you can't vote for her is probably something worth thinking about ><


No. I refuse to consider it.

Despite the fact that my party was highjacked by an Orange-headed Assclown and racists assholes like my brother-in-law, I cannot actively vote against it. I can choose not to cast a vote "FOR" it, but I don't think that I could actively cast a vote for the diametrically opposed party - not on a national ticket, at least.

So, it really isn't a joke (except for the fact that I keep saying it). Instead, it is sort of me resigning myself to the fact that she is probably going to win, but refusing to actually "help" the situation along by violating my principals. I cannot cast a vote for Hillary.

However, bribes that contain lots of money or many games to add to my collection may make me reconsider. I am a whore for new games...


It's hard to not read this as "Party first, country Second"
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I'm fairly certain the Bible is the largest Evangelical publication.
 
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I'm fairly certain the Bible is the largest Evangelical publication.


What does it have to say about:

Mocking disabled people.

Mocking people whose son died in a war.

Grabbing women's pussies unasked.

Thrusting your tongue down a woman's throat unasked.

Refusing to repudiate the KKK.

Talking about 10 year old girls like they are eventual sexual objects.

Threatening to have those you disagree with arrested out of spite.

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Donald Trump Called Deaf "Apprentice" Contestant Marlee Matlin "Retarded," Three Staffers Say


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Sarxis wrote:
I'm fairly certain the Bible is the largest Evangelical publication.


What does it have to say about:

Mocking disabled people.

Mocking people whose son died in a war.

Grabbing women's pussies unasked.

Thrusting your tongue down a woman's throat unasked.

Refusing to repudiate the KKK.

Talking about 10 year old girls like they are eventual sexual objects.

Threatening to have those you disagree with arrested out of spite.

Also, what about making fun of deaf people and calling them "retarded"?


> Excerpts from the October 13, 2016 Daily Beast news story by Gideon Resnick and Asawin Suebsaeng entitled:

Donald Trump Called Deaf "Apprentice" Contestant Marlee Matlin "Retarded," Three Staffers Say



The Republican Presidential nominee has a long history of demeaning women and people with disabilities. But even for The Donald, this is sick.

Just in case you thought Donald Trump was insufficiently awful: He repeatedly called a deaf actress “retarded,” three sources tell The Daily Beast.

Trump, who was accused on Wednesday of making sexual comments to Marlee Matlin, an Oscar-winning actress who once competed on Trump’s Celebrity Apprentice, also apparently had a habit of insulting, mimicking, and demeaning as mentally handicapped his star female contestant — all because she was deaf.

In 2011, Matlin, who is still the only deaf actor or actress to win an Academy Award for best actress, appeared on Trump’s NBC reality-TV series, "The Apprentice". By the end of the season, she had come in second place and earned her fair share of compliments from Trump in the aired footage. But according to three longtime staffers who worked on Matlin’s season of Celebrity Apprentice, Trump would regularly disrespect the actress and would even treat her as if she were mentally disabled.

Sometimes the insults would be behind her back; other times they would be right in front of her.

Due to extensive non-disclosure agreements signed by members involved with the production, every one of the sources asked to be quoted anonymously for fear of legal retribution.

“[Trump] would often equate that she was mentally retarded,” said one source, who described how kind Matlin and her interpreter Jack Jason were.

During the taping of the show, Trump would often scribble down notes while sitting at the table of “the boardroom”, the show’s primary set. A person familiar with the notes who helped clean up after tapings said that on one of the pieces of paper, Trump wrote: Marlee, is she retarded??

“He would write notes on his blotter, his papers in front of him, and he would scribble notes in it,” a source described. “It was usually just asinine things on them.”

During breaks, Trump would often remain mic’d up and engage in chit-chat with Donald Trump Jr. or other people in the boardroom for tapings.

“[Trump] would make fun of her voice. It actually sounded a lot like what he did [to] the New York Times guy,” another person who worked on The Apprentice for years told The Daily Beast, referring to when Trump mocked a disabled reporter last year. The source said this incident occurred outside the boardroom, during a break from filming. “Like, to make it seem like she was mentally not there? [It] sounded like he got a real kick out of it. It was really upsetting.”

Another Apprentice staffer, who worked on the show for roughly five years, described how Trump commenting on Matlin’s deafness and supposed mental deficiencies was a regular occurrence during the whole season. Occasionally, it would be directly to Matlin’s face.

“In the boardroom, he would talk to her like she was ‘special,’” the source said. “He took her deafness as a some kind of [mental] handicap.” The staffer recalls sitting in the control room during the shoot for one episode and being taken aback hearing Trump make an “insensitive” comment about Matlin’s deafness to the actress while she was seated across the boardroom table.

“She responded [to him], she stood up for herself,” the source said. (This exchange was not included in the final cut of the episode.)“But people would just laugh this [stuff] off — it was just the culture of [the show],” the staff member said. “But now it’s a little more serious because it’s not a joke anymore!”

Through an intermediary, Matlin declined to comment on this story.

“He would kind of do these mock voices,” a source said, who witnessed and heard one incident. “[Matlin] was a popular person on the show. I didn't think he would take the low road and mock her disability.”






This revelation comes on the heels of a rash of sexual-harassment and -assault accusations against Trump, as well as other allegations from a former "Apprentice" contestant, Richard Hatch (the winner of the very first season of CBS' "Survivor"), who claimed Trump also made lewd remarks to Matlin during taping.



Richard Hatch

“Watching him in the boardroom making sexual comments to Marlee Matlin, to all of the women on 'The Apprentice', it was obvious that that’s just a part of who he is,” Hatch told People magazine this week. “It was obvious and it was grotesque. It was blatant and it was frequent. He did it with Lisa Rinna; he did it with Marlee Matlin. He did it with whomever happened to be there at the time… He did it in front of Ivanka [Trump, his daughter]. That was not just uncomfortable for me. It was weird.”

“He doesn’t engage with women normally,” Hatch later told Entertainment Tonight. “I think he thinks he’s complimenting people, when he’s practically drooling… My guess would be that he would describe it as 'flirting'.”

Long before she appeared on Celebrity Apprentice, Matlin snagged the honor of becoming the first deaf actor or actress to win an acting Academy Award for her role in 1986’s "Children of a Lesser God". She has appeared on various TV series including in a recurring role on Aaron Sorkin’s "The West Wing". In 2011, she, alongside Snoop Dogg and Larry King, participated in the 2011 Comedy Central roast of Trump. (Matlin made a number of penis-related jokes at Trump’s expense during that broadcast.)

Late last year, Matlin told the New York Post about her relationship with the real-estate mogul and reality-TV star. “He treated me with respect and humor and was always looking after me,” she told the tabloid.

When asked at the time if she was ready for a President Trump, she deflected, saying that “Anyone can run for President!”

Regardless of their apparently friendly relationship—or how Trump treated Matlin while the cameras were off — it is still unlikely Trump would ever win Matlin’s vote. In 2012, she was a staunch supporter of President Barack Obama, and this year she has repeatedly affirmed her support for Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton. “I’m for my friend @HillaryClinton,” she tweeted in January. “If you’re with her, let her know.”

The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment on this story.


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windsagio wrote:
chrisnd wrote:
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I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact.


I think that's part of your joke, but that it's 'obvious' you can't vote for her is probably something worth thinking about ><


No. I refuse to consider it.

Despite the fact that my party was highjacked by an Orange-headed Assclown and racists assholes like my brother-in-law, I cannot actively vote against it. I can choose not to cast a vote "FOR" it, but I don't think that I could actively cast a vote for the diametrically opposed party - not on a national ticket, at least.

So, it really isn't a joke (except for the fact that I keep saying it). Instead, it is sort of me resigning myself to the fact that she is probably going to win, but refusing to actually "help" the situation along by violating my principals. I cannot cast a vote for Hillary.

However, bribes that contain lots of money or many games to add to my collection may make me reconsider. I am a whore for new games...


It's hard to not read this as "Party first, country Second"


No, not really. If I put "county second", then I would definitely vote Hillary.

It's about hope. I hope the GOP recovers from this, and finds a way to resurrect the Reagan ideals. The type of GOP that is actually friends with Tip O'Neill. The type of GOP that convince Kennedy Democrats in 1980 that Reagan was a better answer to combat all the woes of the 70's brought about by Carter.

Voting for Hillary doesn't do that - I will let other people in Ohio do the dirty work. But I do realize that voting for Trump certainly won't do that either. That's why I said earlier that I am resigned to the fact that Hillary is going to be the next President, but I refuse to contribute towards that end. Maybe my only real option is Johnson after all. If I do that, then I can't be blamed for what happens next.
 
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chrisnd wrote:
windsagio wrote:
chrisnd wrote:
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chrisnd wrote:

I still can't vote for Hillary, of course - that is a well known and often stated fact.


I think that's part of your joke, but that it's 'obvious' you can't vote for her is probably something worth thinking about ><


No. I refuse to consider it.

Despite the fact that my party was highjacked by an Orange-headed Assclown and racists assholes like my brother-in-law, I cannot actively vote against it. I can choose not to cast a vote "FOR" it, but I don't think that I could actively cast a vote for the diametrically opposed party - not on a national ticket, at least.

So, it really isn't a joke (except for the fact that I keep saying it). Instead, it is sort of me resigning myself to the fact that she is probably going to win, but refusing to actually "help" the situation along by violating my principals. I cannot cast a vote for Hillary.

However, bribes that contain lots of money or many games to add to my collection may make me reconsider. I am a whore for new games...


It's hard to not read this as "Party first, country Second"


No, not really. If I put "county second", then I would definitely vote Hillary.

It's about hope. I hope the GOP recovers from this, and finds a way to resurrect the Reagan ideals. The type of GOP that is actually friends with Tip O'Neill. The type of GOP that convince Kennedy Democrats in 1980 that Reagan was a better answer to combat all the woes of the 70's brought about by Carter.

Voting for Hillary doesn't do that - I will let other people in Ohio do the dirty work. But I do realize that voting for Trump certainly won't do that either. That's why I said earlier that I am resigned to the fact that Hillary is going to be the next President, but I refuse to contribute towards that end. Maybe my only real option is Johnson after all. If I do that, then I can't be blamed for what happens next.


Fair enough. But please vote for all other races on your ballot.
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