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Ok, so maybe he's not exactly a boardgame fan, but I came across this nugget from 1992:

"Fidel Castro apparently took note. Monopoly had a strong following in Cuba, but Castro has banned it. He decreed that every set be destroyed."

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-10-04/news/920330069...

Good man!

So anyone else hear of any attention being paid to boardgames by VIPs? I read somewhere that JFK and Kissinger both liked Diplomacy. And Avalon Hill used to list Walter Cronkite as a fan of their games in their brochures. (Always made me think well of the old guy when I was a kid.)
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Which is interesting, considering that Monopoly was originally designed by an anti-capitalist as an example of how capitalism inevitably leads to inequality and exploitation. I wonder if Castro would approve of the original version.

Edit: for those interested, here's an article about the "secret" history of Monopoly.
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Monopoly shows how clever people can take advantage of deal-making to gain an advantage for themselves. It's one thing to learn about this in your junior high Marxism class, but it is quite an eye-opener to see how you can do it in an economic simulation, however crude. People get ideas and wish to better themselves at the expense of society as a whole. It's no wonder an egalitarian society like Cuba decided to ban the game in the service of the greater good.

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Anyone have the stones to set up a game of Cuba Libre with him?
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Anyone have the stones to set up a game of Cuba Libre with him?

I wanted to bring my copy to Cuba last year. Instead just brought Innovation (which the wife and played in bars all across the country, attracting some curious looks).
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skutsch wrote:
Ok, so maybe he's not exactly a boardgame fan, but I came across this nugget from 1992:

"Fidel Castro apparently took note. Monopoly had a strong following in Cuba, but Castro has banned it. He decreed that every set be destroyed."


What an a**e that man was. The game was exactly right for his cause. It makes everyone angry, apart from the winner, and hate on capitalism; by design. And to think such a shallow man should have talked so much.

At least he's grown up a bit of late.

Meanwhile, supposedly JFK and Kissinger loved Diplomacy.
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skutsch wrote:
So anyone else hear of any attention being paid to boardgames by VIPs?


There's a documentary that's been on Netflix about the life of Neil Armstrong, and in it, his brother discusses how Neil told him about what he had decided to say when he first stepped on the moon, over a game of Risk.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2625082/
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skutsch wrote:
So anyone else hear of any attention being paid to boardgames by VIPs?
Mack_me_Bucko wrote:
There's a documentary that's been on Netflix about the life of Neil Armstrong, and in it, his brother discusses how Neil told him about what he had decided to say when he first stepped on the moon, over a game of Risk.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2625082/
ACE "Rimmer" even managed to BEAT 'alt-uni'-"Rimmer" at RISK where Ukraine only got ONE ARMY, so, what a Guy, Buddy! robot
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soblue 'moi' just "wished" that hadn't drank A-L-L this 'cough-syrup', and hey, is that..why..E-L-V-I-S-! Play some "Name that TUNE"? cool
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I really think it's quite out of line for Robert Wesley to come on here and not share the awesome drugs he's clearly using with the rest of us. As I learned way back in 1st grade, if you bring anything, you have to bring enough for EVERYONE!


Commie.
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surprise In Putin Soviet Russia then RISK Ukraine is only allowed ONE ARMY! 6whistle



Can someone explain to me why people do the stupid colored writing thing?





skutsch wrote:
I really think it's quite out of line for Robert Wesley to come on here and not share the awesome drugs he's clearly using with the rest of us. As I learned way back in 1st grade, if you bring anything, you have to bring enough for EVERYONE!



That explains it.
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I'd be shocked if Putin didn't play chess passably well.
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I really think it's quite out of line for Robert Wesley to come on here and not share the awesome drugs he's clearly using with the rest of us. As I learned way back in 1st grade, if you bring anything, you have to bring enough for EVERYONE!
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Commie.
blush Well, did Lennon 'sing': "Imagine there's NO religion ...oh, and PAUL was the Walrus!"
surprise The 'chocolate cake' in a "bag" was the LIE!
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GROGnads wrote:
skutsch wrote:
I really think it's quite out of line for Robert Wesley to come on here and not share the awesome drugs he's clearly using with the rest of us. As I learned way back in 1st grade, if you bring anything, you have to bring enough for EVERYONE!
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Commie.
blush Well, did Lennon 'sing': "Imagine there's NO religion ...oh, and PAUL was the Walrus!"
surprise The 'chocolate cake' in a "bag" was the LIE!



What the hell are you on?surprise
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Can someone explain to me why people do the stupid colored writing thing?
That explains it.
Simply: SHINY OBJECTS TREATED AS DIVERSION goldencameltradearistocratbuildingworker
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What the hell are you on?surprise
What you 'got'? \whistle
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I'd be shocked if Putin didn't play chess passably well.
In Putin Soviet Russia then "Bishops" are "Commissars" and when you MOVE any you MUST 'sing' "lyrics" from the SONG!
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Monopoly shows how clever people can take advantage of deal-making to gain an advantage for themselves.

How is there any deal-making in Monopoly? You move around the board at random and when you land on certain spaces you're told to pay a set amount of money.
 
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jumbit wrote:
Monopoly shows how clever people can take advantage of deal-making to gain an advantage for themselves.

How is there any deal-making in Monopoly? You move around the board at random and when you land on certain spaces you're told to pay a set amount of money.

... have you been playing with a houserule where you're not allowed to buy/sell/trade properties between players? meeple
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GROGnads wrote:
DaveyJJ wrote:
I'd be shocked if Putin didn't play chess passably well.
In Putin Soviet Russia then "Bishops" are "Commissars" and when you MOVE any you MUST 'sing' "lyrics" from the SONG!
wow ~"LIFE during 'Wartime'!"
/whistle\ ~"99 Luftballoons"
/whistle\ ~"On the METRO"


Let the wookie Putin win
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MK99 wrote:
jumbit wrote:
Monopoly shows how clever people can take advantage of deal-making to gain an advantage for themselves.

How is there any deal-making in Monopoly? You move around the board at random and when you land on certain spaces you're told to pay a set amount of money.

... have you been playing with a houserule where you're not allowed to buy/sell/trade properties between players? meeple
surprise W-H-A-T-? Did you not also HAVE something akin to ""THE BEAD STORE""-"Beads for 'Jewelry' NOT 'Bread' for eating nor Monopoly denominations!"
 
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MK99 wrote:
jumbit wrote:
Monopoly shows how clever people can take advantage of deal-making to gain an advantage for themselves.

How is there any deal-making in Monopoly? You move around the board at random and when you land on certain spaces you're told to pay a set amount of money.


Monopoly is principally a negotiation game. The rules are so short that its surprising how so many people play it without negotiation. More or less snakes and ladders. Said to be one of the reasons why it isn't good for kids, under 12s, who can't work with that properly, and they get 'traumatised' never to return to boardgames.

There's a couple of other rules worth knowing of: on an empty plot, if the person landing doesn't buy it then it must be auctioned immediately. Ignore the optional free parking rule that injects more money in to the game (if I remember correctly) that simply extends the game length with no other benefit, which for an already very long game is pretty bad news.

Also, there's the matter of what negotiation is permitted. The rules implicitly exclude futures and other such things. And which lengthen the game. However, some monopoly connoisseurs think that that is the really fascinating stuff.

Also, Chris Farrel, an underappreciated BGG Guru who rates it a healthy 8, reckons that it should only ever be played with 4 people, and count assets at two bankruptcies to determine the winner.
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